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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848027 times)

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #90 on: December 29, 2012, 07:42:55 PM »
Is there anything he can say which will go down well, right now?

That isn't "I'm stepping down, in favour of Roy Keane", obviously.

Not really.  It wouldn't be understandable in any case, I've heard tramps in the street off their box on meths who talk more coherently than Lambert.

So, you're Lerner, you're annoyed this evening.

What do you do?

It's all well and good losing your rag and getting fucked off (as we all are) and wanting blood, but what do you actually think the club should do now?

The transfer window opens in a couple of days, so you'll need to keep that in mind.

You sack him now, then what? What are you going to do in the morning?


I'd like him to actually step up and show some leadership.  He should be meeting with Lambert within the next couple of days and discussing the way forward and possible transfer targets for the next few weeks.  It would also be nice to see  him relay some of his thoughts in the press and try and reassure some of the doubters.

No, that was for Risso, and assuming he'd sacked Lambert.

I just fancied hearing what he proposed to do having satisfied his (in some ways understandable) blood lust and sacked the current manager right now.

Then what?

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #91 on: December 29, 2012, 07:44:40 PM »
Its a moronic point really when you think about it.

To sack him now, before the window opens, when we desperately need to reinforce?


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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #92 on: December 29, 2012, 07:45:22 PM »
Lerner out ASAP! He is useless...end of!
And how are you going to facilitate Lerner out of our club? He owns it and till we find a buyer who will deliver a profit for him he is here to stay ...end of!

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #93 on: December 29, 2012, 07:48:43 PM »
Its a moronic point really when you think about it.

To sack him now, before the window opens, when we desperately need to reinforce?



It'd be utter, utter fucking madness.

It'd be like when Newcastle appointed Alan Shearer. I remember hearing that news and thinking "they're doomed", and they were.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #94 on: December 29, 2012, 07:49:26 PM »
Its a moronic point really when you think about it.

To sack him now, before the window opens, when we desperately need to reinforce?



FFS did you not hear his radio comments? No experienced players to be signed in jan

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #95 on: December 29, 2012, 07:50:09 PM »
Sack Lambert and get Roy Keane in?

I am struggling to think of a more stupid idea.

As Player-Manager?
And also Director of Football

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #96 on: December 29, 2012, 07:50:20 PM »
He didn't say that. He danced around it.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #97 on: December 29, 2012, 07:51:54 PM »
-Gardner (would be our best midfielder but for injuries

Based on what?

A handful of appearances?

If we were considering such an untried kid to be our best midfielder, it'd show just how much shit we were in.

It's delusion. He's just another in a long line of young Villa kids who never amount to much. We keep talking up our youth system when in reality they're really just average. I think Lerner fell for it big time and felt we were churning out out great players through a youth academy akin to Ajax. How wrong he was.

I have started to think along these lines now as well, I keep hearing how good these players will be that are coming through, in reality as you say they are just very average players.  I think the academy is very good at what it does but how many players who have come through recently can we actually say are good top flight players, I can't think of many.
We sold Cahill,Ridgewell,Whittingham and Gardner who would have improved the team today.The problem has been the huge waste of money on bringing in players.
Given,Makoun,Hutton,Warnock,Ireland,Delph,Davies ,Nzogbia ,Dunne and Bent adds up to £75-80m and a probable loss of £50m plus.All bought by former managers and financed by the board. We have spent very badly.


Playing devil's advocate for a nano second, people were saying the same things about those young players above when they were with us (with the obvious exception of Cahil.)

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #98 on: December 29, 2012, 07:52:02 PM »
If he wanted to do one thing to deflate the kids even more, it'd be to talk about signing experience in the coming weeks. It's not surprising he danced around it.

Lerner needs to support him, and it needs to be playrs who will command higher wages than kids from Boro or Sheffield United. That's the key to it. If he doesn't do it, then we are screwed, and there's not a manager around who could stop that.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #99 on: December 29, 2012, 07:54:09 PM »
Is there anything he can say which will go down well, right now?

That isn't "I'm stepping down, in favour of Roy Keane", obviously.

Not really.  It wouldn't be understandable in any case, I've heard tramps in the street off their box on meths who talk more coherently than Lambert.

I don't think it's fair to attack the man's accent.

When communication is such a vital part of his job description, I think it's fair to question. Benfica hired Graeme Souness who couldn't speak a word of Portuguese. Okay, he was a shit coach but if you can't speak to your players, how do you get your message across. Not that I'm saying that's the case with Lambert, despite struggling at times to understand him.

Lambert's main fault is he doesn't do 'cautious'. Great in principle but rarely works against well drilled teams, even Wigan. His tactics are far too gung-ho and he's getting spanked by more thoughtful managers week in, week out at the moment.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #100 on: December 29, 2012, 07:54:12 PM »
There was a period where -prior to his switch to QPR (and against my better instincts) where I'd have considered Redknobb. 

He's an insufferable buffoon, but players actually want to play for him (for some weird reason) and he'd have generated positive publicity about the place.  Until the next instalment of his dodgy financial dealings (allegedo) cam to light, obv. 

There's no a huge science to what he does,  he buys good players, plays them in their rightful positions and plays a positive brand of football.   In some ways, the closest thing in the league at present to BFR. 

Naturally, now he's at QPR I hope he takes them down by about March and they go bust.

For us, we have to stick. 

Unless there is a very obvious candidate that will improve us dramatically, Lambert should get the chance to turn things around. 

Some of his signings have been inspired, and -despite all the guff about wanting to go with young players only- he did try to sign the likes of Dempsey and Defoe in the summer.   If the right players are available, he'll sign them, regardless of age, I reckon.

We're just about covered for young up and coming players for most positions now. We need older heads. 

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #101 on: December 29, 2012, 07:54:20 PM »
Worst goal difference , lowest goals scored and most goals conceded in the premier league - lambert really has me worried, I wanted him to get the job but I never imagined things would be this bad.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #102 on: December 29, 2012, 07:55:11 PM »
Cheap and hungry are terms that doesn't mean a great deal. Quality is key, with the right physical attributes.

All this talk about buying new players in the window is fine, but which quality, experienced players that could really make a difference are going to want to join us right now? Not very many I'll bet.
 

They'll come if you offer them enough cash. The trouble is Lerner only likes to offer YTS wages. That's why we look to the lower leagues.

Except when we sign Bent, Ireland, N'zogbia etc?

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #103 on: December 29, 2012, 07:55:37 PM »
Does Lambert use the Ardiles principle?

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #104 on: December 29, 2012, 07:57:44 PM »
He didn't say that. He danced around it.

Not from what I heard he didn't dance around it , he said he believes the young hungry players policy is still the way to go and experinced players guarantee nothing- the club have been down that road in recent years and where has it taken them.

Hardly implies he will be going for experience.

 


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