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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848081 times)

Offline TheEgo

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #45 on: December 29, 2012, 06:56:16 PM »
Has anything ACTUALLY been said on WM or is it a case of Chinese whispers? And as for Roy Keame as manager of Villa, that has to be one of the most ridiculous (football related) things I've heard. He is a total, unmitigated disaster, no no no!

As for our current plight I'm concerned, very concerned. We look like a team heading for the drop, PL said its not about experience, look at last year etc! What he stopped short of saying, or should have said is tht it's about LEADERS. We have no one to lead us, no one to take the game by the scruff of the neck. We need leaders and winners FAST.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #46 on: December 29, 2012, 06:56:46 PM »
Sack Lambert and get Roy Keane in?

I am struggling to think of a more stupid idea.

As Player-Manager?

That's genuinely the only way the idea could get any more fucking stupid.

Honestly, Risso, what's wrong with you? Have you gone mental or something? I used to think your Allardyce thing was mental enough, but Roy Keane, FFS?

I reckon Rissbert adopts the Adrian Durham/TalkSport attitude to things. Lets says something thats mental bollox and gets people riled so they ring in to the station and keep listening. Mr Woodall is probably paying him to say stuff so people stay online at H & V. I'm sure he doesn't really believe it.  ;D

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #47 on: December 29, 2012, 06:57:13 PM »
I am fucking sick to the back teeth of hearing, kids,youth, promising youngsters, brilliant academy  etc etc.
This is the premier league, arguably the most demanding and cutthroat league in the world.
If anyone on the management team, CEO, CFO, Chairman, or manager, thinks that you can be successful with a team full of championship players, unproven foreigners and kids, they are bloody deluded.
There is no doubt about this, it is piss poor management from top to bottom.
Trouble is, we have an owner who has no idea how to run a football club, and a manager who frankly is unproven at this level, and appears to be approaching the role with a real 'small time' attitude.
I have yet to hear a single rousing speech from PL that makes think, yeah, he is up for this.
Frankly, I don't think he is.

Offline Irish villain

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #48 on: December 29, 2012, 07:00:09 PM »
Lambert actually is a man who makes me believe in his vision and what he wants to achieve. There is just something about him that instills positivism into the club. I have a lot more confidence in him than I ever had in mcleish.

I tried to make a similar point in the post-match thread but it came out wrong. Lambert is trying to build a base for the future on very limited resources. I tried to say that he has a plan. He has a philosophy we can buy into, he wants to build a platform for the future. But, he is working under the same restrictions as McLeish. He has bought well with the money he was given. If we sack him where do we go? We desperately need stability.

More importantly we need an owner to lead and provide the manager with the resources to carry his plan through.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2012, 07:02:38 PM »
He didn't say he wouldn't sign any exprienced players in as many words.

He said he is only interested in players with a hunger. Exprienced is a subjective term anyway, as Lambert rightly said this squad has the exprience of two relegation battles already.


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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #50 on: December 29, 2012, 07:03:30 PM »
Sack Lambert and get Roy Keane in?

I am struggling to think of a more stupid idea.

As Player-Manager?

That's genuinely the only way the idea could get any more fucking stupid.

Honestly, Risso, what's wrong with you? Have you gone mental or something? I used to think your Allardyce thing was mental enough, but Roy Keane, FFS?

I reckon Rissbert adopts the Adrian Durham/TalkSport attitude to things. Lets says something thats mental bollox and gets people riled so they ring in to the station and keep listening. Mr Woodall is probably paying him to say stuff so people stay online at H & V. I'm sure he doesn't really believe it.  ;D

I can see a flaw in your plan there rightaway.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #51 on: December 29, 2012, 07:05:25 PM »
He didn't say he wouldn't sign any exprienced players in as many words.

He said he is only interested in players with a hunger. Exprienced is a subjective term anyway, as Lambert rightly said this squad has the exprience of two relegation battles already.


i heard it that way too.

Offline Irish villain

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #52 on: December 29, 2012, 07:06:39 PM »
Also, on our youth players, I think we have been really impressed with Lowton and Westwood because they have a bit of grit many of our own home-grown villa products don't have.

I really hope this doesn't offend anybody, but when I see some of villa's own young players I feel they look really manufactured and lack a bit of steel and imagination. Weimann, Baker and Bannan are exceptions. Even Clark, whom I am a big fan of, seems to have little stomach and never seems to be on top of things.

Sorry, but a lot of them aren't justifying the hype.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #53 on: December 29, 2012, 07:07:06 PM »
Sack Lambert and get Roy Keane in?

I am struggling to think of a more stupid idea.

As Player-Manager?

That's genuinely the only way the idea could get any more fucking stupid.

Honestly, Risso, what's wrong with you? Have you gone mental or something? I used to think your Allardyce thing was mental enough, but Roy Keane, FFS?

I reckon Rissbert adopts the Adrian Durham/TalkSport attitude to things. Lets says something thats mental bollox and gets people riled so they ring in to the station and keep listening. Mr Woodall is probably paying him to say stuff so people stay online at H & V. I'm sure he doesn't really believe it.  ;D

Fans have called for managers heads for a lot less than Lambert's results this season.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #54 on: December 29, 2012, 07:07:40 PM »
He didn't say he wouldn't sign any exprienced players in as many words.

He said he is only interested in players with a hunger. Exprienced is a subjective term anyway, as Lambert rightly said this squad has the exprience of two relegation battles already.


i heard it that way too.

Same here.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #55 on: December 29, 2012, 07:08:02 PM »
The tactics , team selection and formation along with his substitutions worry me very much about lambert, his signings haven't been that bad but you need a balance and a mixture of youth and experience- not just young lads learning their trade.

Lambert now worries me and Lerner has worried me for years.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #56 on: December 29, 2012, 07:08:56 PM »
He didn't say he wouldn't sign any exprienced players in as many words.

He said he is only interested in players with a hunger. Exprienced is a subjective term anyway, as Lambert rightly said this squad has the exprience of two relegation battles already.


i heard it that way too.

The trouble is when he's signed "hungry" players in the past it just turns out that "hungry" means "cheap".

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #57 on: December 29, 2012, 07:10:13 PM »
Sack Lambert and get Roy Keane in?

I am struggling to think of a more stupid idea.

As Player-Manager?

That's genuinely the only way the idea could get any more fucking stupid.

Honestly, Risso, what's wrong with you? Have you gone mental or something? I used to think your Allardyce thing was mental enough, but Roy Keane, FFS?

I reckon Rissbert adopts the Adrian Durham/TalkSport attitude to things. Lets says something thats mental bollox and gets people riled so they ring in to the station and keep listening. Mr Woodall is probably paying him to say stuff so people stay online at H & V. I'm sure he doesn't really believe it.  ;D

Fans have called for managers heads for a lot less than Lambert's results this season.

Yeah, it's the "maybe Roy Keane" thing that swings it.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #58 on: December 29, 2012, 07:10:16 PM »
Lambert actually is a man who makes me believe in his vision and what he wants to achieve. There is just something about him that instills positivism into the club. I have a lot more confidence in him than I ever had in mcleish.

We were all thrilled when we got him as manager in the summer and rightly so. its a bit silly to throw your toys out the pram when it gets bad. we need to be patient and accept where we are for the moment hoping to progress. it doesn't happen over night, its going to take time. we have a lot of rebuilding to do.

last 3 games have been a disgrace but we can't dwell on that bad, the only way we can move is to move forward.
Totally agree.Vlaar,Benteke,Lowton  and Westwood good signings and I think Bennett will prove to be as well.Lambert also resigned Guzan.Nearly everybody wanted Collins,Warnock,Hutton and Dunne out which was half of TSMs side.
Lambert's main error was to trust in KEA.
If we get rid of Lambert it will be to our detriment and some other club's benefit.

I think both these posts are bang on (with the exception that I think Bennett has looked shite).

Some of Lambert's buys have looked very astute (Lowton, Westwood, maybe Vlaar, resigning Guzan).

The problem is that the most important one was KEA, and he has flopped big style.

The biggest mistake we could make now would be to change manager at the current time, it would be utter madness.

Yes, yes, yes and yes.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #59 on: December 29, 2012, 07:10:53 PM »
He didn't say he wouldn't sign any exprienced players in as many words.

He said he is only interested in players with a hunger. Exprienced is a subjective term anyway, as Lambert rightly said this squad has the exprience of two relegation battles already.


i heard it that way too.

The trouble is when he's signed "hungry" players in the past it just turns out that "hungry" means "cheap".

Agree. Lets not let the language being used in a certain way hide the subtext; namely that they must be cheap players or we ain't signing them.

 


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