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Offline not3bad

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Re: Jordan Bowery
« Reply #315 on: April 06, 2013, 11:01:54 PM »
Good work in the lead up to the first goal.

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Re: Jordan Bowery
« Reply #316 on: April 06, 2013, 11:05:06 PM »
Reflecting on the game I'm not sure Lambert's formation really worked - I guess that Bowery and Weimann were supposed to support Benteke and leave Lowton to cover the right flank in attack, and take it in turns to help him out in defence. A few times we seemed a bit lopsided, and Lowton often had to go long (and lose possession) because there was noone offering a short pass in front of him.

That though isn't really Bowery's fault - he doesn't look completely sure in possession sometimes, but overall he did a decent job today. In fact having played a part in the first goal and threatened on a few other occasions I'm sure he did a lot better than most of us thought beforehand.

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Re: Jordan Bowery
« Reply #317 on: April 06, 2013, 11:06:23 PM »
Reflecting on the game I'm not sure Lambert's formation really worked

Reflecting on the score I'm sure it did.

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Re: Jordan Bowery
« Reply #318 on: April 06, 2013, 11:09:32 PM »
Reflecting on the game I'm not sure Lambert's formation really worked

Reflecting on the score I'm sure it did.

Fine point taken, but there were a few times when Lowton was left exposed. Against a better, or even competent, side I don't think we'll see the same team line up.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Jordan Bowery
« Reply #319 on: April 06, 2013, 11:11:37 PM »
I make that 3 starts for Bowery and 3 wins. I'll take that.

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Re: Jordan Bowery
« Reply #320 on: April 06, 2013, 11:16:38 PM »
Reflecting on the game I'm not sure Lambert's formation really worked - I guess that Bowery and Weimann were supposed to support Benteke and leave Lowton to cover the right flank in attack, and take it in turns to help him out in defence. A few times we seemed a bit lopsided, and Lowton often had to go long (and lose possession) because there was noone offering a short pass in front of him.

That though isn't really Bowery's fault - he doesn't look completely sure in possession sometimes, but overall he did a decent job today. In fact having played a part in the first goal and threatened on a few other occasions I'm sure he did a lot better than most of us thought beforehand.

From my post on the Lambert in or out thread...

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what was interesting is that for a lot of the time we were playing a 4222 with Gabby and Weimann central behind Bowery and Benteke who were playing wider, which was pulling Huth and Shawcross out of the middle, Weimann shot on the post is a great example of it

I think the long passes down the side were part of the tactic.  They were clearly going to try to double up on Benteke so we predicted it and played him wider than normal, with Bowery offering a similar out ball on the other side.  I've not seen Benteke spend as much time out on the left before so I'm fairly sure it was a tactical decision.

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Re: Jordan Bowery
« Reply #321 on: April 06, 2013, 11:17:37 PM »
Looks decent enough, still raw but could be a steal at 500k

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Re: Jordan Bowery
« Reply #322 on: April 06, 2013, 11:31:11 PM »
Reflecting on the game I'm not sure Lambert's formation really worked - I guess that Bowery and Weimann were supposed to support Benteke and leave Lowton to cover the right flank in attack, and take it in turns to help him out in defence. A few times we seemed a bit lopsided, and Lowton often had to go long (and lose possession) because there was noone offering a short pass in front of him.

That though isn't really Bowery's fault - he doesn't look completely sure in possession sometimes, but overall he did a decent job today. In fact having played a part in the first goal and threatened on a few other occasions I'm sure he did a lot better than most of us thought beforehand.

From my post on the Lambert in or out thread...

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what was interesting is that for a lot of the time we were playing a 4222 with Gabby and Weimann central behind Bowery and Benteke who were playing wider, which was pulling Huth and Shawcross out of the middle, Weimann shot on the post is a great example of it

I think the long passes down the side were part of the tactic.  They were clearly going to try to double up on Benteke so we predicted it and played him wider than normal, with Bowery offering a similar out ball on the other side.  I've not seen Benteke spend as much time out on the left before so I'm fairly sure it was a tactical decision.

Good and interesting point, though most of the long balls were fairly speculative. Good spot with Benteke going out wide, but though Weimann, Gabby and Bowery all found dangerous positions centrally it meant that we often had Weimann in the whole with his back to goal (not something he's good at), and Bowery attacking pretty aimlessly down the right (how many times did a promising attack turn go down the right, then back to the defence/Guzan?).

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Re: Jordan Bowery
« Reply #323 on: April 07, 2013, 12:02:57 AM »
I thought he did fine today. Granted, he should probably have scored but he worked hard for the team and did a job in a position which probably isn't his favoured. As you would expect from someone who has played only a couple of PL games and was at Chesterfield not that long ago, he looks a bit raw, a bit in awe of it still but worth persisting with him for sure.

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Re: Jordan Bowery
« Reply #324 on: April 07, 2013, 12:09:38 AM »
I thought he did fine today. Granted, he should probably have scored but he worked hard for the team and did a job in a position which probably isn't his favoured. As you would expect from someone who has played only a couple of PL games and was at Chesterfield not that long ago, he looks a bit raw, a bit in awe of it still but worth persisting with him for sure.

Well put Matt, I totally agree with your comments. He did the job asked of him. 

Offline The Adventurer

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Re: Jordan Bowery
« Reply #325 on: April 07, 2013, 12:30:15 AM »
Sorry but seems to me to be a million miles away from being a PL player! Not good enough I'm afraid! And that's me being polite!

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Re: Jordan Bowery
« Reply #326 on: April 07, 2013, 12:43:02 AM »
Sorry but seems to me to be a million miles away from being a PL player! Not good enough I'm afraid! And that's me being polite!


he#s played 8 games and is 21 years old, on top of that he's generally done what's been asked to do, why write him off as not good enough at this point?  He's go enough about him to be a useful backup player as stands and may develop into more than that, let's give him a bit more of a chance.

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Re: Jordan Bowery
« Reply #327 on: April 07, 2013, 12:54:49 AM »
Sorry but seems to me to be a million miles away from being a PL player! Not good enough I'm afraid! And that's me being polite!
People said the same about Westwood after the Soton game earlier in the season. Nothing is set in stone for him yet. Had he been woeful, it wouldn't mean he wouldn't make it. Had he been sensational and scored a hattrick, it wouldn't mean he will make it. Just give him a chance until he has played enough games to make a reasonable judgement on him. At least when people write of Bannan or Albrighton, they have played enough games to form an opinion on. This was Bowery's SECOND league start FFS!

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Re: Jordan Bowery
« Reply #328 on: April 07, 2013, 12:56:47 AM »
Whatever happened to stuart445?

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Re: Jordan Bowery
« Reply #329 on: April 07, 2013, 12:58:41 AM »
People being far too quick to write off some of our players is a feature of this season. Give the kid a break, FFS. He did well today, and almost scored. Twice, in fact.

Big ups, by the way, to those who told us Benteke and Westwood weren't good enough so early this season.

 


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