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Author Topic: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread  (Read 86420 times)

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #45 on: December 26, 2012, 07:33:56 PM »
The facts are we were the 4-5th biggest net spenders last summer, and over the last few years in the prem it is the same. So blaming the chairman is all well and good, but does not tell the whole story. The money has been spent poorly in the most part.

Last summer Lambert did very well to get the players he did for the money spent.

We have lost 2 games that most of us all expected to lose. Sure by a few more than we would expect, but we have Wigan at home next after a run of Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs, all 3 in good form. That is tough, and we got 3 points. Not the end of the world.

We need Vlaar back asap, we need Bannan back in the side, and I hope Westwood and Baker are not out for long.

Today we did ok in terms of stopping them first half, but losing Baker was a real blow, he was playing well and Herd had a nightmare.

No question it has not been good enough last 2 games, but we have the chance to get back on track against Wigan, and then January. We have to sign a centre half, a central midfield player and a forward who would all walk into our side.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2012, 07:34:00 PM »
In the last 2 matches we have been as bad as I have seen in 22 years following the team.It's embarrassing right now.
TBH I have at a loss as to how we beat Norwich and Liverpool in fact looking at the last 2 games I am surprised we have been able to beat anyone.I'd point out we were as equally inept against Everton and Soton this season too.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2012, 07:34:08 PM »
I'm struggling to find a word to describe that. Execrable?

I think 'excrement' is the word you're looking for!

I will never be anything but proud to support Villa, but fuck me I'm embarassed as all hell right now about it. I am left with two questions after this less-than-festive period:

1. How have we managed to completely and utterly disintegrate in the last two games?


and



2. Why is all the rum gone?

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2012, 07:34:16 PM »
why cant we pass and move and pass again , why ? :'(

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2012, 07:34:44 PM »
Fucking absymal. Reaction? where was it? that was atrocious on every level. Delph, KEA, Albrighton, Herd, Ireland all may as well go.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2012, 07:35:14 PM »
First half was like time travel back to MON games at Villa Park. Clueless with the ball, no ideas and 8 in defence.

Second half we tried to play a more open game, showed early signs of improvement but punished due to poor defending from the make shift back four.

We need players back, leadership and some experience bought in NEXT WEEK during the transfer window.

You can't expect the kids to drive the car, no matter how much potential they have when their feet don't reach the pedals. 

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2012, 07:35:18 PM »
Shocking. I just hope Lambert
knows how to turn this round, tho I'm beginning to wonder.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #52 on: December 26, 2012, 07:35:18 PM »
Too many kids, too many of whom are not good enough.
Too many lower leagues, low wages players.
Not enough experience.

The natural reaction is to vent at the manager, but really, this is just another symptom of the dreadful management of the club by Lerner and Faulkner,.

I can't even look at the teams around us and take comfort from the fact that we've a stronger squad, better players than them, because we haven't.

I totally understand what Lambert is trying to do, and I like it when it works, but the fact of the matter is, we have nowhere near sufficient quality in the side.

Some - Bennett, Herd, Delph - are quite clearly nothing like good enough. Some - KEA, Ireland - are probably good enough but don't show anything like enough desire to prove they are.

Lerner needs to take a look at where we are and reflect on how his stewardship of the club has gone the last few years.

He spent 20m on players though, and few of those players are anywhere near good enough.  ANY manager serving up an 8-0 and a 4-0 loss at home needs to have a long, hard look at themselves.

What: guzan, Lowton, Westwood, Benteke?

I agree about kea and Bennett unproven to date

We've struggled under three consecutive managers. That's not a coincidence

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #53 on: December 26, 2012, 07:35:41 PM »
The facts are we were the 4-5th biggest net spenders last summer, and over the last few years in the prem it is the same. So blaming the chairman is all well and good, but does not tell the whole story. The money has been spent poorly in the most part.

That is only half the story, though, and it's not the most important half.

The players came from the lower leagues and selling leagues in Europe, where wages are much lower. They are (comparatively) low wage players, and the signs are that the club wants more of the higher wage earners out of the club.

The reason so many of these players (both ones we bought and grew) look out of their depth is because they are.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #54 on: December 26, 2012, 07:35:48 PM »
1 we played  2 game teams

with the wrong tactics and application

2 I drank it for you  ;)

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #55 on: December 26, 2012, 07:36:24 PM »
Lambert had better have some fantastic plans for January, or it's time for him to fuck off.

See, I don't get this. We have a manager who the majority of us wanted. If it happened to another club and they sacked a manager after six months, they'd be a laughing stock and too impatient. It would be unacceptable. But we have two (admittedly very heavy) defeats just after we reach a cup semi final and beat Liverpool and it's okay for us to start going for ultimatums? We're poor. We lost. Move on, we'll win again some time and everything will be rosy.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #56 on: December 26, 2012, 07:36:34 PM »
The facts are we were the 4-5th biggest net spenders last summer, and over the last few years in the prem it is the same. So blaming the chairman is all well and good, but does not tell the whole story. The money has been spent poorly in the most part.

Last summer Lambert did very well to get the players he did for the money spent.

We have lost 2 games that most of us all expected to lose. Sure by a few more than we would expect, but we have Wigan at home next after a run of Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs, all 3 in good form. That is tough, and we got 3 points. Not the end of the world.

We need Vlaar back asap, we need Bannan back in the side, and I hope Westwood and Baker are not out for long.

Today we did ok in terms of stopping them first half, but losing Baker was a real blow, he was playing well and Herd had a nightmare.

No question it has not been good enough last 2 games, but we have the chance to get back on track against Wigan, and then January. We have to sign a centre half, a central midfield player and a forward who would all walk into our side.

Agree with this common sense post lacking the hysterical notes of most others

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #57 on: December 26, 2012, 07:36:34 PM »
Fuck me, good job the house is full of booze.

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #58 on: December 26, 2012, 07:36:36 PM »
Was Westwood definitely injured? If he and baker are out then god help us. They're about the only two leaders in the side

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Re: Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread
« Reply #59 on: December 26, 2012, 07:36:58 PM »
The club is certainly in the giving mood this year,
-12 in two games. For christ's sake, buncha ponies out there. Grow up Villa.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2012, 07:39:18 PM by villadelph »

 


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