Chelsea v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Chipsticks]

We were lucky to get 0 today.

[mike]

Unacceptable.  I think we have had it this season we're such a poor side.  Cheers Lerner you useless twat.

Yes, apart from that game, it's been brilliant so far this season.

Unacceptable.  I think we have had it this season we're such a poor side.  Cheers Lerner you useless twat.

Sorry, I've had a few beers, but shut the fuck up. Grow up. One fucking game and its the end if the world.

Sorry, I've had a few beers, but shut the fuck up. Grow up. One fucking game and its the end if the world.

Yes because apart from this game we've done really well. It's not like we're only three points above the relegation places.

Well that's an original response and no mistake.

Firstly, it's better than using four letter words about fellow fans and secondly it may be unoriginal but it's also true. The view that it'll all be alright, the view we are doomed and the view that its all a bit of a worry but we'll probably be alright in the end (which is my view) are all unoriginal so I fail to see the point of the remark.

[Legion]

I put the blame on the manner of this defeat firmly at Lambert's door.

We shouldn't be going into a game of this quality thinking because it worked against a poor Liverpool team it will work against the quality of Chelsea.  We should have contained them and frustrated them and then introduced our style of play.  Even that may not have worked and we still might have been tonked, but to let in 8 (eight) fucking goals in the manner we did, and, let's not kid ourselves, it could have been far worse, is completely and totally unacceptable for Aston Villa. 

A huge dose of realism is what we got today.

He should have tried to contain the GA amount, but instead carried on trying to compete with them. Once we were 4-0 down, he should have shut up shop, so to speak.

[olaftab]

I wish a record defeat for Aston Villa was against a decent proper football club like Accrington Stanley or Notts County not stolen money fuelled chavs from west London.

[avfcpg]

To put things in context 5 players destroyed us today:

Torres - £50m
Hazard - £32m
Mata - £23.5m
Luiz - £20m
Moses - £10m

that's £135m of attack, if they all have a good game (I'd give all 5 10 out of 10 for today, they were exceptional) not many sides would cope with them.

What we did wrong was not go to damage limitation after the 3rd.

The team they put out today including subs came to a total of in excess of £260 million. That includes paying what seems like peanuts years ago for Cole, Cech & Lampard...so you are probably talking nearer £300 million in todays money.

Piss poor excuse I know and no excuse for a dreadful display but it just shows what this league is all about now. When they click, Citeh and Chelski are light years ahead...

But it's a funny old game...we'll beat them in the LC Final you wait and see....!! 

[Ads]

It was a bit like that Kevin Costner golf film, when he keeps taking on that shot on th 18th and finding the water; taking on bogey after bogey.

[Lambert and Payne]

I put the blame on the manner of this defeat firmly at Lambert's door.

We shouldn't be going into a game of this quality thinking because it worked against a poor Liverpool team it will work against the quality of Chelsea.  We should have contained them and frustrated them and then introduced our style of play.  Even that may not have worked and we still might have been tonked, but to let in 8 (eight) fucking goals in the manner we did, and, let's not kid ourselves, it could have been far worse, is completely and totally unacceptable for Aston Villa. 

A huge dose of realism is what we got today.

He should have tried to contain the GA amount, but instead carried on trying to compete with them. Once we were 4-0 down, he should have shut up shop, so to speak.

Yep, it was humiliating enough but we could have saved some face. In the end it was one of the most embarrassing results in my lifetime

[sirlordbaltimore]

That was as poor a looking Villa side as i've ever seen. Completely outplayed, out thought, and out shone. I'd say Guzan kept the score half respectable in some ways as they could easily have had 10+. I have no idea what Lambert was thinking today, but for me you could see after 10 minutes that he'd got it wrong. Why he didn't feel the need to change it I don't know.

Three at the back, all over the shop. No organisation or positional sense today. Looked like they'd never played together before. Wing backs, ahem, looked woeful too.

Midfield was men against boys, over run, out numbered and out played with ease. Westwood had to my mind his worst showing of the season. Bannan, ran around a lot and always showed willing but offered little else. Holman, well I forgot he was on to be honest.

Benteke showed today exactly why I think talk of selling Bent is utter lunacy. That was a young lad today, frustrated, frustrating and showing how raw he still is. We've all got a bit carried away with the lad to my mind, and in reality you cannot pin all of our goals hopes on him. Yes he's looked good, great even. But this is what you'll get from a young lad. He's still learning.

We currently have a four man strike force, ALL of whom should be able to score goals to hopefully help keep us up. There should never be a 'we don't need him, we've got him' line, we need OPTIONS. Benteke doesn't have to play every week, nobody does. It's about time we put all that nonsense to one side and realised it's a squad game. The best teams have options, we do to. And it's up to Lambert to use them and get the points we need to stay up.

The table makes for very grim reading still, and those 8 goals in the against column aren't going to help at all.

Onwards

[hipkiss92]

I am sorry but old people repeat themselves and I am an old person.

I said it after the Everton game, after the Southampton game, after the Man U game, after the City game and I will say it again.

Our team lacks mental strength.   Our team is mentally fragile.

It is nothing to do with physical strength or physical fitness neither is it something which can be coached into players on the training ground.

Our players need to be talked to long and hard, by professional sports psychologists if necessary about developing a mind set which in effect says "I am an Aston Villa player, I wear the glorious colours which have faced and withstood the best players in the game over 138 years.   I am not going to cave in.   I will stop you, whoever you are."  Our young players need to learn to strut and swagger and to walk the turf of Villa Park and everywhere else as though they own it.

So none of this applied in the last week when they 'strut and swaggered' around Carrow Road or Anfield?

[TonyD]

Just saw the goals on Sportsday.   No complaints, they simply blitzed us. 

[remy]

I want a fucking apology from every single player that represented Aston Villa football club on that pitch this afternoon.

If I dont get 3 points vs spurs - there will be hell to fucking pay.

I want all the wages for the players docked and a refund given to all the away fans who went there today.

I want the players to come in on Christmas fucking morning training with nothing other than a win for the home fans on Boxing day.

Lambert your motivation went to pot today, I cant have the excuse that they are a young team, the same players went to Anfield and won!

No Aston Villa team should ever be thumped 8-0 unless theyre playing Brazil 70' or Spain 2010'.

This is the worst defeat in our history, you players should be fucking ashamed of yourselves. Wankers.

Shell Shocked. Gut Wrenching. I want to fucking puke. 

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I'd say Given kept the score half respectable in some ways as they could easily have had 10+

We played with 2 keepers?

That makes the score line even worse.

[KevinGage]

Well fuck my old boots. 

Lambert does seem to have a bit of a blind spot as far as defending is concerned, Norwich's Goals Against last season was pretty brutal too. 

If we go down this will be one of the games referred back to time and again,  make no mistake. 

I just hope that in some of the games coming up (most likely after Tottingham at home) we win two on the bounce to ease the nerves somewhat. 

[avfcpg]

I'd say Given kept the score half respectable in some ways as they could easily have had 10+

We played with 2 keepers?

That makes the score line even worse.

Poor old Shay...concedes 8 even when dropped...

[mal]

Perhaps you saw a different game from me Mal?

The one I saw, they got at us every which way, but with a definite plan to target us down the left. It worked inside two minutes.

The ball was played into the left channel, 15 yards inside the touchline and our half and crossed from there. Bannan was the closest Villa player. When you make a statement like ' definite plan to target us down the left' you are saying a wide man takes the fullback at every opportunity and plays effective balls into the box. That did not happen.
I say again how many assists did Moses contribute?