QPR v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[JUAN PABLO]

why do we keep giving the ball away too?      that frustrates me the most

[Chris Smith]

just watched Swansea .  oh my Im so f**king jealous .   

Do you think Swansea collectively woke up one morning and started playing like that? Or do you think it took years of coaching and acquiring the right players to get there?

[Clampy]

Two minutes into the game i was convinced we were going to win at a canter. Their defence was all over the place so if i'm honest i'm disapointed we only picked up a point. I know it was important not to lose but with their defence as bad as it was, we should have won. As for the subs, bringing on Delph and KEA on at Old Trafford at 1-1 is fine but i think he should have been a bit more adventurous yesterday.

[Ron Manager]

just watched Swansea .  oh my Im so f**king jealous .   

Do you think Swansea collectively woke up one morning and started playing like that? Or do you think it took years of coaching and acquiring the right players to get there?

Chris I think JP is being sarcastic re my post. Of course you are right it takes time but the first 30mins at West Ham suggested Paul Lambert might be heading in that direction.

[JUAN PABLO]

Lambert is starting to worry me a little.
What happened to the compelling football mantra?

I wanted PL before we got him , I was over the moon when we got him and was expecting us to win games 4-2 and lose games 5-2 but I was quite excited with that , but he has made some baffling decisions and his stubborness frustrates me .

I am sure he will sort it but he is worrying me a little , I still think going to shite like QPR and looking for a draw is not good enough , you play your experienced best players , go for the win and stick a nail in QPR coffin. 

what ever he is doing , is not working , we look dire . There is some postitives in there , Benteke, guzaqn and Westwood  but he should and could be doing so much better. 

[JUAN PABLO]

just watched Swansea .  oh my Im so f**king jealous .   

Do you think Swansea collectively woke up one morning and started playing like that? Or do you think it took years of coaching and acquiring the right players to get there?

no but Im still jealous and can see Villa never playing like that to be fair even in 6 years .

[eastie]

Two minutes into the game i was convinced we were going to win at a canter. Their defence was all over the place so if i'm honest i'm disapointed we only picked up a point. I know it was important not to lose but with their defence as bad as it was, we should have won. As for the subs, bringing on Delph and KEA on at Old Trafford at 1-1 is fine but i think he should have been a bit more adventurous yesterday.

I agree, we were playing a team without a single win and I felt Ireland should have been brought on and bent for gabby- the game was there to be won but lambert seemed to be delighted with a draw.
I remember his press conference him saying his teams will always go for the win but yesterday we were negative in the 2nd half and invited qpr onto us.

[Jarpie]

Two minutes into the game i was convinced we were going to win at a canter. Their defence was all over the place so if i'm honest i'm disapointed we only picked up a point. I know it was important not to lose but with their defence as bad as it was, we should have won. As for the subs, bringing on Delph and KEA on at Old Trafford at 1-1 is fine but i think he should have been a bit more adventurous yesterday.

I agree, we were playing a team without a single win and I felt Ireland should have been brought on and bent for gabby- the game was there to be won but lambert seemed to be delighted with a draw.
I remember his press conference him saying his teams will always go for the win but yesterday we were negative in the 2nd half and invited qpr onto us.

I think he would've brought Ireland and Bent on if we wouldn't been overrun in midfield in first 20 minutes of second half.

[loughborough villain]

I was pleased with Lambert being appointed and I think that he will prove to be a good manager in time, the club lacks any forward momentum at the minute and this isn't easily rectified.

What I do find odd is that we go to Man City two weeks ago with four at the back plus a midfield of Westwood, Wiemann, Gabby, Bannan and Ireland (pretty attack minded in my opinion) and then yesterday we go to QPR and play five at the back and even though they looked poor defensively we didn't really seem to go for the win, especially after the break.

I thought we played quite well first half but second half we didn't get hold of the ball at all in attacking areas and honestly believe that we had better options on the bench than those used. Even when Herd went off we could have gone to four at the back to have introduced another midfield player which is where they took control in the second half.

[Louzie0]

I was pleased with Lambert being appointed and I think that he will prove to be a good manager in time, the club lacks any forward momentum at the minute and this isn't easily rectified.

What I do find odd is that we go to Man City two weeks ago with four at the back plus a midfield of Westwood, Wiemann, Gabby, Bannan and Ireland (pretty attack minded in my opinion) and then yesterday we go to QPR and play five at the back and even though they looked poor defensively we didn't really seem to go for the win, especially after the break.

Maybe it had more to do with Vlaar and 2 others being unavailable to play in a back 4?

[Percy McCarthy]

I think the pressure's got to him a bit regards going for the win all the time, and IMO he was right to be a bit cautious yesterday.

Earlier in the season, there was a post-match interview on the telly, where he started off quite bullish about either a result or a performance - can't recall what game it was so not sure which. Anyway, half-way through the interviewer pointed out that in spite of things having gone quite well that day, it was our worst start in so many years. I'm sure I noticed him wilt a little, and for the rest of the interview he mumbled that little bit more quietly.

Personally, I think we'll be great to watch if and when the pressure eases a bit, and the manager and players gain a little more confidence.

I think he now realises that managing The Villa is a different world to managing newly-promoted 'plucky' Norwich.

[PaulWinch again]

You think Lowton and Westwood are out of their depth?

Yes I do actually. I'm sick to death of seeing them give the ball away with sloppy passing and general poor play. If they're so good, how the hell have we been so shite this season?

You mean the Westwood who has been our best passer of the ball for weeks? And the Lowton who looks every bit a Premiership full back? Strange two to pick out.

They're both out of their depth, and quite a few other players in our team as well. That's why we find ourselves down with the dead beats with the worst Villa team in years and years. Delude yourself as much as you like, but this club is only going in one direction with these type of players in it, and trust me, it ain't up.

There is no way Lowton or Westwood are out of their depth, they've been very good.

[ozzjim]

I think the pressure's got to him a bit regards going for the win all the time, and IMO he was right to be a bit cautious yesterday.

Earlier in the season, there was a post-match interview on the telly, where he started off quite bullish about either a result or a performance - can't recall what game it was so not sure which. Anyway, half-way through the interviewer pointed out that in spite of things having gone quite well that day, it was our worst start in so many years. I'm sure I noticed him wilt a little, and for the rest of the interview he mumbled that little bit more quietly.

Personally, I think we'll be great to watch if and when the pressure eases a bit, and the manager and players gain a little more confidence.

I think he now realises that managing The Villa is a different world to managing newly-promoted 'plucky' Norwich.

He is reletively young for a manager too, and is still learning. Time and patience required, but he can clearly buy a player, and I think won us a point with his subs, rather than cost us 2. Second half they came out steaming, and we needed to get a foot hold in the game.

[Big Dick Edwards]

just watched Swansea .  oh my Im so f**king jealous .   

Do you think Swansea collectively woke up one morning and started playing like that? Or do you think it took years of coaching and acquiring the right players to get there?

no but Im still jealous and can see Villa never playing like that to be fair even in 6 years .

Is this the same Swansea we played off the park a few months ago?

[KevinGage]

Lambert is starting to worry me a little.
What happened to the compelling football mantra?

I wanted PL before we got him , I was over the moon when we got him and was expecting us to win games 4-2 and lose games 5-2 but I was quite excited with that , but he has made some baffling decisions and his stubborness frustrates me .

I am sure he will sort it but he is worrying me a little , I still think going to shite like QPR and looking for a draw is not good enough , you play your experienced best players , go for the win and stick a nail in QPR coffin. 

what ever he is doing , is not working , we look dire . There is some postitives in there , Benteke, guzaqn and Westwood  but he should and could be doing so much better. 

Can't say I disagree.

3 wins in 3 months is brutal, but hopefully -between now and Jan/Feb, we can put some back to back wins together.  A mini run of 2/3 on the bounce would ease the tension, and might give the younger players confidence to persist with the passing game- which we're seeing in fits and starts.