Barry Bannan-What does he do ?

[ozzjim]

Seriously, your idea of passing a football must be very different to mine. Come on, explain the term pass to me please?

[saunders_heroes]

Seriously, your idea of passing a football must be very different to mine. Come on, explain the term pass to me please?

A pass from one player that actually reaches a team mate. Bannan likes to pass it to an opposition player. Very occasionally he reaches his a team mate though. How Bannan is still a first team player is beyond me. It's probably because Lerner has pulled the plug on real investment.

[Percy McCarthy]

So now you're saying 80/90 times out of hundred is very occasionally. Okay then.

[saunders_heroes]

So now you're saying 80/90 times out of hundred is very occasionally. Okay then.

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

[pauliewalnuts]

So now you're saying 80/90 times out of hundred is very occasionally. Okay then.

I like Bannan, but I find it hard to believe his pass completion rate is that high, purely because of the type of player he is - look for the pass to open things up, rather than the "knock it five yards sideways" NRC type.

As a result his completion stats are bound to suffer.

[saunders_heroes]

Those pass rate stats are nonsense anyway. Make 4 easy sideways and backward passes under no pressure and complete them, then make a ridiculous "Hollywood" pass and needlessly give the ball away in a dangerous area and you've got a ridiculously high pass rate.
Then people use them to back up an argument on forums like this. As I said, nonsense.

[ozzjim]

Seriously, your idea of passing a football must be very different to mine. Come on, explain the term pass to me please?

A pass from one player that actually reaches a team mate. Bannan likes to pass it to an opposition player. Very occasionally he reaches his a team mate though. How Bannan is still a first team player is beyond me. It's probably because Lerner has pulled the plug on real investment.

Apart from the 23 million spent in the summer being ignored.

How is it nonsense that by very definition 90% of the time the ball leaves their foot it reaches a team mate?

Nonsense is here somewhere for certain.

[Monty]

Seriously, your idea of passing a football must be very different to mine. Come on, explain the term pass to me please?

A pass from one player that actually reaches a team mate. Bannan likes to pass it to an opposition player. Very occasionally he reaches his a team mate though. How Bannan is still a first team player is beyond me. It's probably because Lerner has pulled the plug on real investment.

Apart from the 23 million spent in the summer being ignored.

How is it nonsense that by very definition 90% of the time the ball leaves their foot it reaches a team mate?

Nonsense is here somewhere for certain.

Ozz, come on, you need to learn the narrative. Every time Bannan gives the ball away, it is directly Lerner's fault.

[Matt Collins]

The stats don't prove who is a good player and who isn't. But they do prove fairly conclusively whether someone continuously gives the ball away. Neither Westwood or Bannan do.

[saunders_heroes]

Seriously, your idea of passing a football must be very different to mine. Come on, explain the term pass to me please?

A pass from one player that actually reaches a team mate. Bannan likes to pass it to an opposition player. Very occasionally he reaches his a team mate though. How Bannan is still a first team player is beyond me. It's probably because Lerner has pulled the plug on real investment.

Apart from the 23 million spent in the summer being ignored.

How is it nonsense that by very definition 90% of the time the ball leaves their foot it reaches a team mate?

Nonsense is here somewhere for certain.

£23m spread thinly on lower league players because Randy wont pay the wages for real Premier League quality. That's why we're in the shit.

[Monty]

So now you're saying 80/90 times out of hundred is very occasionally. Okay then.

I like Bannan, but I find it hard to believe his pass completion rate is that high, purely because of the type of player he is - look for the pass to open things up, rather than the "knock it five yards sideways" NRC type.

As a result his completion stats are bound to suffer.

You make a good point there. I think it's indicative that his pass completion rate has gone up - he plays more safe passes and tries to pick his moments more. He's still learning about the subtler points of the game, but there's no question he's got better.

[ozzjim]

Seriously, your idea of passing a football must be very different to mine. Come on, explain the term pass to me please?

A pass from one player that actually reaches a team mate. Bannan likes to pass it to an opposition player. Very occasionally he reaches his a team mate though. How Bannan is still a first team player is beyond me. It's probably because Lerner has pulled the plug on real investment.

Apart from the 23 million spent in the summer being ignored.

How is it nonsense that by very definition 90% of the time the ball leaves their foot it reaches a team mate?

Nonsense is here somewhere for certain.

£23m spread thinly on lower league players because Randy wont pay the wages for real Premier League quality. That's why we're in the shit.

Randy won't, or the club cannot afford to keep paying huge wages on shit and have it as nearly 90% of turnover?

[saunders_heroes]

The stats don't prove who is a good player and who isn't. But they do prove fairly conclusively whether someone continuously gives the ball away. Neither Westwood or Bannan do.

But base your opinion on a player on stats alone doesn't give you the full story. I'm sure you know that deep down.

[saunders_heroes]

Seriously, your idea of passing a football must be very different to mine. Come on, explain the term pass to me please?

A pass from one player that actually reaches a team mate. Bannan likes to pass it to an opposition player. Very occasionally he reaches his a team mate though. How Bannan is still a first team player is beyond me. It's probably because Lerner has pulled the plug on real investment.

Apart from the 23 million spent in the summer being ignored.

How is it nonsense that by very definition 90% of the time the ball leaves their foot it reaches a team mate?

Nonsense is here somewhere for certain.

£23m spread thinly on lower league players because Randy wont pay the wages for real Premier League quality. That's why we're in the shit.

Randy won't, or the club cannot afford to keep paying huge wages on shit and have it as nearly 90% of turnover?

And if we think finances are bad now, lets hope we're not relegated because that's when the financial shit hits the fan. A false economy if ever there was one.

[saunders_heroes]

Seriously, your idea of passing a football must be very different to mine. Come on, explain the term pass to me please?

A pass from one player that actually reaches a team mate. Bannan likes to pass it to an opposition player. Very occasionally he reaches his a team mate though. How Bannan is still a first team player is beyond me. It's probably because Lerner has pulled the plug on real investment.

Apart from the 23 million spent in the summer being ignored.

How is it nonsense that by very definition 90% of the time the ball leaves their foot it reaches a team mate?

Nonsense is here somewhere for certain.

Ozz, come on, you need to learn the narrative. Every time Bannan gives the ball away, it is directly Lerner's fault.

Monbert, I remember having a discussion with you in pre season when I claimed the team wasn't good enough and we were heading for a relegation battle. You argued that everything was sweetness and light at Villa Park.
Hate to say I told you so.....