So thank you for your utterly reply and the bizarre attempt to defend a dire player like Westwood. Nice attempt at sarcasm, though.
Quote from: Simon Page on February 21, 2020, 06:21:34 PMQuote from: Ads on February 21, 2020, 05:39:56 PMDire player.Makes you wonder how the numerous managers who really rate him get work in football and you don't. Thank Christ there was no shortage of similar geniuses to tell him how shite he was. I look forward to the fraud charges against him for continuing to fool the Premier League.He's played for the worst Villa side in our history and Burnley, who if you've drunk enough and squint hard enough almost look like a football team.I watched/suffered every single game Westwood ever played for us. 147 times. He scored a lovely goal at the Stripey Filth. Which was nice. But it didn't make up for his lack of goals, lack of creativity, inability to pass a ball forwards (Norwich away for Gabby aside), beat a man, have any pace, any strength, aerial ability. He was good at pointing though.So thank you for your utterly reply and the bizarre attempt to defend a dire player like Westwood. Nice attempt at sarcasm, though.
Quote from: Ads on February 21, 2020, 05:39:56 PMDire player.Makes you wonder how the numerous managers who really rate him get work in football and you don't. Thank Christ there was no shortage of similar geniuses to tell him how shite he was. I look forward to the fraud charges against him for continuing to fool the Premier League.
Dire player.
Quote from: amfy on February 21, 2020, 05:19:33 PMIn the past I have always been pretty highly rated at work but in my latest job I have had my first experience of trying to do it as well as I can whilst having managers who constantly tell me I am doing it wrong (& I mean constantly).It’s gradually left me unable to think straight, not able to remember simple facts, procedures or tasks, unable to make a simple decision. In fact, from being really well thought of in my previous job which was similar, they have not only made me FEEL like I am no good at it, they have made me ACTUALLY no good at it.Constant criticism does take your mental health apart, and your ability to be competent goes with it. The truth is that this treatment of players robs us of talent.I sympathise with you there Amfy as I had a similar experience about 12-13 years ago. I was working in a joint venture and had 2 bosses, one of whom was very political and did everything to make a landgrab for more than 50% of the team, with me somewhere in the middle.Basically it got to the point where everything I did I was double and treble thinking and no longer trusting my own judgment. I disliked the company anyway so was able to leave within 8 months of joining, but for a while i was plain miserable, even at weekends.I hope you manage to sort this out. When I left I was out of work for a while but much happier, though I appreciate you may not have the luxury of being able to douse your boss in pigshit and resigning.
In the past I have always been pretty highly rated at work but in my latest job I have had my first experience of trying to do it as well as I can whilst having managers who constantly tell me I am doing it wrong (& I mean constantly).It’s gradually left me unable to think straight, not able to remember simple facts, procedures or tasks, unable to make a simple decision. In fact, from being really well thought of in my previous job which was similar, they have not only made me FEEL like I am no good at it, they have made me ACTUALLY no good at it.Constant criticism does take your mental health apart, and your ability to be competent goes with it. The truth is that this treatment of players robs us of talent.
Quote from: Ads on February 21, 2020, 06:35:31 PMSo thank you for your utterly reply and the bizarre attempt to defend a dire player like Westwood. Nice attempt at sarcasm, though.Nice attempt at English. Poor attempt at self-awareness.
Quote from: Simon Page on February 21, 2020, 06:21:34 PMQuote from: Ads on February 21, 2020, 05:39:56 PMDire player.Makes you wonder how the numerous managers who really rate him get work in football and you don't. Thank Christ there was no shortage of similar geniuses to tell him how shite he was. I look forward to the fraud charges against him for continuing to fool the Premier League.He's played for the worst Villa side in our history and Burnley, who if you've drunk enough and squint hard enough almost look like a football team.I watched/suffered every single game Westwood ever played for us. 147 times. He scored a lovely goal at the Stripey Filth. Which was nice. But it didn't make up for his lack of goals, lack of creativity, inability to pass a ball forwards (Norwich away for Gabby aside), beat a man, have any pace, any strength, aerial ability. He was good at pointing though.So thank you for your reply and the bizarre attempt to defend a dire player like Westwood. Nice attempt at sarcasm, though.
Jesus man. In a discussion about the mental health implications of people constantly having a go in an over the top, unnecessary fashion, this is what you choose to add. It's not an act is it? You really are the way you come across.
Quote from: Ads on February 21, 2020, 06:35:31 PMQuote from: Simon Page on February 21, 2020, 06:21:34 PMQuote from: Ads on February 21, 2020, 05:39:56 PMDire player.Makes you wonder how the numerous managers who really rate him get work in football and you don't. Thank Christ there was no shortage of similar geniuses to tell him how shite he was. I look forward to the fraud charges against him for continuing to fool the Premier League.He's played for the worst Villa side in our history and Burnley, who if you've drunk enough and squint hard enough almost look like a football team.I watched/suffered every single game Westwood ever played for us. 147 times. He scored a lovely goal at the Stripey Filth. Which was nice. But it didn't make up for his lack of goals, lack of creativity, inability to pass a ball forwards (Norwich away for Gabby aside), beat a man, have any pace, any strength, aerial ability. He was good at pointing though.So thank you for your reply and the bizarre attempt to defend a dire player like Westwood. Nice attempt at sarcasm, though.Agreed. He was fuckin shit. Having a player as dreadful as he was playing so many games summed us up as a club during that awful period in our history.
Absolutely. 4th division rubbish, but he was cheap which suited Lerner after he just gave up trying. A terrible player.
Quote from: Ads on February 21, 2020, 07:13:26 PMAbsolutely. 4th division rubbish, but he was cheap which suited Lerner after he just gave up trying. A terrible player.And this is the problem with your assessment. I've seen plenty at the Villa who I don't rate, including but by no means limited to or bookended by Westwood. But when you denigrate him, beyond all logic and evidence, as "4th division rubbish" when he clearly, demonstrably isn't, you show yourself to be less an objective critic ("I said he's dross, because he was") and just someone with a ridiculously, comically, unjustified high opinion of your own brilliance.
you show yourself to be less an objective critic ("I said he's dross, because he was") and just someone with a ridiculously, comically, unjustified high opinion of your own brilliance.