Ashley Westwood - Sold to Burnley

[saunders_heroes]

Bull. He was shit from day one. I remember scratching my head in disbelief when seeing him in a  pre-season game just after he signed wondering what the hell we were doing signing rubbish like him (and others). Even funnier was when the club PR machine tried to talk him up for an England place in his first few months here. The most ridiculous part was that so many fans fell for it. Now look at us!

You must love knowing so much more about football that Lambert, Garde, Sherwood, RDM, Bruce and Dyche.  How on earth haven't you been snapped up?

I think it's more like a damning indictment of the state of Aston Villa post 2010 than anything else.

[saunders_heroes]

Bull. He was shit from day one. I remember scratching my head in disbelief when seeing him in a  pre-season game just after he signed wondering what the hell we were doing signing rubbish like him (and others). Even funnier was when the club PR machine tried to talk him up for an England place in his first few months here. The most ridiculous part was that so many fans fell for it. Now look at us!

Bull. When he was playing in the midfield with Delph alongside him he looked ok. Kept it simple, got the ball, moved it on to the more creative players in the team, did a job. When those better players moved on, he had more responsibility to affect games and be creative, his game isn't up to that which is why he has struggled badly for the last couple of seasons

So the best you can up with is that at times during his 5 years here he looked "okay" and occasionally "did a job".
Christ what a miss he'll be.

[ClaretAndBlueBlood]

Bull. He was shit from day one. I remember scratching my head in disbelief when seeing him in a  pre-season game just after he signed wondering what the hell we were doing signing rubbish like him (and others). Even funnier was when the club PR machine tried to talk him up for an England place in his first few months here. The most ridiculous part was that so many fans fell for it. Now look at us!

Bull. When he was playing in the midfield with Delph alongside him he looked ok. Kept it simple, got the ball, moved it on to the more creative players in the team, did a job. When those better players moved on, he had more responsibility to affect games and be creative, his game isn't up to that which is why he has struggled badly for the last couple of seasons

So the best you can up with is that at times during his 5 years here he looked "okay" and occasionally "did a job".
Christ what a miss he'll be.

my comment was that he wasn't as bad as some make out, ie he wasn't shit from day one like some say

[saunders_heroes]

Bull. He was shit from day one. I remember scratching my head in disbelief when seeing him in a  pre-season game just after he signed wondering what the hell we were doing signing rubbish like him (and others). Even funnier was when the club PR machine tried to talk him up for an England place in his first few months here. The most ridiculous part was that so many fans fell for it. Now look at us!

Bull. When he was playing in the midfield with Delph alongside him he looked ok. Kept it simple, got the ball, moved it on to the more creative players in the team, did a job. When those better players moved on, he had more responsibility to affect games and be creative, his game isn't up to that which is why he has struggled badly for the last couple of seasons

So the best you can up with is that at times during his 5 years here he looked "okay" and occasionally "did a job".
Christ what a miss he'll be.

my comment was that he wasn't as bad as some make out, ie he wasn't shit from day one like some say

Well we'll have to agree to disagree then. If you think the mainstay of possibly the worst midfield era in this club's history wasn't as bad as some make out then who am I to argue.

[ClaretAndBlueBlood]

Bull. He was shit from day one. I remember scratching my head in disbelief when seeing him in a  pre-season game just after he signed wondering what the hell we were doing signing rubbish like him (and others). Even funnier was when the club PR machine tried to talk him up for an England place in his first few months here. The most ridiculous part was that so many fans fell for it. Now look at us!

Bull. When he was playing in the midfield with Delph alongside him he looked ok. Kept it simple, got the ball, moved it on to the more creative players in the team, did a job. When those better players moved on, he had more responsibility to affect games and be creative, his game isn't up to that which is why he has struggled badly for the last couple of seasons

So the best you can up with is that at times during his 5 years here he looked "okay" and occasionally "did a job".
Christ what a miss he'll be.

my comment was that he wasn't as bad as some make out, ie he wasn't shit from day one like some say

Well we'll have to agree to disagree then. If you think the mainstay of possibly the worst midfield era in this club's history wasn't as bad as some make out then who am I to argue.

exactly, who are you to argue :-). Its all about opinions

[saunders_heroes]

Let's not pretend that he's anything other than utter horseshit. An absolute powderpuff and wet fart of a player.

Agreed. Sooner or later Burnley will be relegated with him in the team.

Thats rich coming from someone who supports a team languishing in the championship, fighting for their survival!

I know. It's thanks to having wankers like Westwood in the team that put us here in the first place!

Uncalled for... that comment really says more about you than the player.

Seconded. No need really.

God bless him.

[pauliewalnuts]

Couldn't help notice on MOTD that when Brady's free kick went in yesterday the furthest man forward to pick up any potential pieces was Westwood. When he was here he was more or less persona non grata in the opposition box.

He was probably just wandering around wondering where he was supposed to be.

[john e]

Bull. He was shit from day one. I remember scratching my head in disbelief when seeing him in a  pre-season game just after he signed wondering what the hell we were doing signing rubbish like him (and others). Even funnier was when the club PR machine tried to talk him up for an England place in his first few months here. The most ridiculous part was that so many fans fell for it. Now look at us!

Bull. When he was playing in the midfield with Delph alongside him he looked ok. Kept it simple, got the ball, moved it on to the more creative players in the team, did a job. When those better players moved on, he had more responsibility to affect games and be creative, his game isn't up to that which is why he has struggled badly for the last couple of seasons

So the best you can up with is that at times during his 5 years here he looked "okay" and occasionally "did a job".
Christ what a miss he'll be.

either way he'll probably be a lot better player for someone else than he ever was for us like so many others
which is why I believe its the managers not the players who are to blame for our downfall over the last 5 years

[QuintonVilla]

Let's not pretend that he's anything other than utter horseshit. An absolute powderpuff and wet fart of a player.

Just out of interest, what's your opinion of Sean Dyche?

He's ginger and he sounds like he needs some Halls Soothers.

[SoccerHQ]

Yes and that.

He's always been slow but as you said you can coach better positioning. I liked his technique and crossing, he certainly had something that suggested he could make a living as a top level footballer.

He was a reasonable footballer, his achilles heel was he got skinned regularly by any winger with a bit of pace. As you say a bit of coaching seems to have helped him cope with that.  Perhaps we should try that approach.

Funnily enough I think one of the biggest issues was just how big our pitch is....you always hear opposition players saying how big and wide VP is to play on so with Lambert wanting to play a high line and 4-3-3 the FBs would get regularly exposed.

At Turf Moor is much tighter and the formation Dyche plays is much more rigid so full backs will get helped out.

PL pitch sizes have been standardized at 105 x 68 m for several years now.

Ours was larger than those requirements as are a few other grounds.

[TB]

PL pitch sizes have been standardized at 105 x 68 m for several years now.

Ours was larger than those requirements as are a few other grounds.

No current PL pitches can be larger then 105 x 68 m (look up the PL Handbook if you like), and that has been the case since the 2013/14 season (I think), when the PL decided to standardize pitch sizes. Some are smaller due to the construction of the ground - I believe Chelsea's pitch is 103 x 67,5 m.

[Malandro]

PL pitch sizes have been standardized at 105 x 68 m for several years now.

Ours was larger than those requirements as are a few other grounds.

 I believe Chelsea's pitch is 103 x 67,5 m.

Got to make room for the Rovers & J.T

[SoccerHQ]

PL pitch sizes have been standardized at 105 x 68 m for several years now.

Ours was larger than those requirements as are a few other grounds.

No current PL pitches can be larger then 105 x 68 m (look up the PL Handbook if you like), and that has been the case since the 2013/14 season (I think), when the PL decided to standardize pitch sizes. Some are smaller due to the construction of the ground - I believe Chelsea's pitch is 103 x 67,5 m.

Ah never knew that....I just assumed there was a suggested size and we and others went above those dimensions.

It does seem we've narrowed the pitch a little this season so the championship are probably more lax on requirements.

[TB]

I believe Chelsea's pitch is 103 x 67,5 m.

Got to make room for the Rovers & J.T

Well done. I'm sure you are aware that this image pre-dates the 2013/14 standardized PL pitch sizes by 20 years.

[PeterWithesShin]

That pic isn't Stamford Bridge as there's none of those little blue invalid cars.