Who Do You Blame/Who Are You Angry With?

[Big Dick Edwards]

O'Neill. I won't forget or forgive what he did. To walk out five days before the season started having bought no new players in that summer left us in deep shit that we're still up to our neck in. His timing meant we couldn't get a new manager until a month into the season and the transfer window had shut. Houllier's subsequent illness and Lerner's curious appointment of McLeish only compounded our problems.

[ez]

I'm only angry with Randy for appointing TSM. It still beggars belief now.

It does but did his 11 months in charge really leave any lasting damage? It was one long shite season of boring dull dire football in which we basically stood still. Nearly all the damage was done before.

I think we were very lucky to stay up. Small Heath got more points the season before and went down.

[rob_bridge]

Most of you are overlooking the obvious.

It's surely Doug's fault - without him we'd have win 10 European Cups

MON acted like a right bandit. As for the crap written about Houlier - had we made a decent managerial appointment at the time to replace Veruca Salt other than a old ill gaffe prone arrogant aloof antagonisitic bloke who had been away from day to day management for several years, things would not have been so bad. Yep he had an eye for a player alright he took that waster Baros of us and gave us someone who actually played for us for 2 seasons. As for TSM - jeeps even now it is too unbearable to think that year of Villa's life was lost and we can never get it back. £12m therabouts in severance pay for that lot.

So in essence about 5 people. This has been systemic for some time and missing out on CL place which was there for the taking in May 2010 started the rot and the profligate spending had to end until Houllier got us into a relegation scrap and we had to foist another load to fend that off.

As it now is we have all the hallmarks of Sheff Wed 15 years ago, Leeds 10 years ago and Newcastle 5 years ago.

Good luck Mr Lambert - you'll need it, especially as your bosses don't seem to have a clue about the game of football.

[jonzy85]

I agree with the above view on Houllier. He was the wrong appointment for sure. The right appointment could have stopped the rot that set in. I don't buy into the whole 'MON ruined the club' stuff. The squad he left us with had finished 6th the season before. It has since been gutted out, with inadequate replacements, aside from Bent.

Mostly I blame Randy. Letting things get to where it did so MON walked (and was able to claim money for constructive dismissal) was poor management of the club. He hasn't done a lot since to redeem himself, again Bent aside.

He needs to back Lambert in January, or perhaps better still, look for a new investor/owner.

[eamonn]

Jonzy, good to have you back.

Re Lerner "letting things get to where it did so MON walked" - I think O'Neill had a fair bit to do with the situation in summer 2010 - the seven or nine players Lerner wanted shifting as they weren't justifying their wages; before giving him more money to spend/waste.

[eastie]

Most of you are overlooking the obvious.

It's surely Doug's fault - without him we'd have win 10 European Cups

MON acted like a right bandit. As for the crap written about Houlier - had we made a decent managerial appointment at the time to replace Veruca Salt other than a old ill gaffe prone arrogant aloof antagonisitic bloke who had been away from day to day management for several years, things would not have been so bad. Yep he had an eye for a player alright he took that waster Baros of us and gave us someone who actually played for us for 2 seasons. As for TSM - jeeps even now it is too unbearable to think that year of Villa's life was lost and we can never get it back. £12m therabouts in severance pay for that lot.

So in essence about 5 people. This has been systemic for some time and missing out on CL place which was there for the taking in May 2010 started the rot and the profligate spending had to end until Houllier got us into a relegation scrap and we had to foist another load to fend that off.

As it now is we have all the hallmarks of Sheff Wed 15 years ago, Leeds 10 years ago and Newcastle 5 years ago.

Good luck Mr Lambert - you'll need it, especially as your bosses don't seem to have a clue about the game of football.

Good post.

[JD]

No one. We will come right, of that I'm sure and Paul Lambert will be our new Ron Saunders. 

[Rip Van We Go Again]

No one. We will come right, of that I'm sure and Paul Lambert will be our new Ron Saunders. 

Somebody on here (can't remember who) said the same about McLeish.

Hope you're right though, winning a title will be nice.

[JD]

No one. We will come right, of that I'm sure and Paul Lambert will be our new Ron Saunders. 

Somebody on here (can't remember who) said the same about McLeish.

Hope you're right though, winning a title will be nice.

I would never have said that about McLeish, but I do like what Lambert is doing. I'm not panicking yet Mark and I still believe Lambert is a good long term bet.   

[eastie]

No one. We will come right, of that I'm sure and Paul Lambert will be our new Ron Saunders. 

Somebody on here (can't remember who) said the same about McLeish.

Hope you're right though, winning a title will be nice.

Not too keen on lifting that championship trophy again though.

[pooligan]

That fat bastard Phil Dowd is to blame. If he had sent off Vidic as he should have done, i am sure we would have gone on to win in the end. Since we lost that final we seem to have been in decline ever since.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

No one. We will come right, of that I'm sure and Paul Lambert will be our new Ron Saunders. 

Somebody on here (can't remember who) said the same about McLeish.

Hope you're right though, winning a title will be nice.

I would never have said that about McLeish, but I do like what Lambert is doing. I'm not panicking yet Mark and I still believe Lambert is a good long term bet.   

Fingers crossed.

Some decent £££ from Blandy in January would help.

[pauliewalnuts]

Mostly I blame Randy. Letting things get to where it did so MON walked (and was able to claim money for constructive dismissal) was poor management of the club.

Oh no, not this old chestnut again.

1. Anyone can "claim" money for whatever they want, it doesn't make the claim valid.

2. The club and MON reached a settlement. Nobody "won" or "lost" anything.

[supertom]

I blame Jimmy Saville. He's psychologically damaged our young side.

[Fernando Partridge]

I'm still in distress after yesterday shambles and looking for most apt threads to comment on. In lower holte yesterday there was an air of quite rueful discontent. Near to me after the 3rd a woman went off on one - lone figure- shouting sort it out lambert... Around me a few joined in with those supporting and chanting pl claret and blue army from upper.. I felt there was unecessary seat banging as attempt at protesting and that support was lacking. For me the blame goes with randy who apparently was there. I m behind Lambert i wad firmly behind him until yesterday now i start to wonder upon his tactics. I support him and continued chanting his name when others around me seemed to sit in disbelief.