Quote from: Dave on July 27, 2015, 02:52:32 PMQuote from: Risso on July 27, 2015, 02:40:58 PMQuote from: Dave on July 27, 2015, 02:09:09 PMQuote from: Risso on July 27, 2015, 02:02:05 PMAgreed, but keepers are under the microscope more than most other positions, look at how badly Encks and Carson went down hill after a set back.A lot of my memory of the Enckleman time is a bit fuzzy, but with Carson I'm not sure that he really went down hill - I don't remember him being anything other than mediocre for us. As I recall it was a bit of a shock that he was picked for that Croatia game based on his form at the time.It's easy to forget as that was nearly 8 years ago, blimey how time flies eh? But looking back, he'd only played 10 games for us before the two Autumn England games, and my recollection was that he'd been doing very well. He'd kept five clean sheets out of 10, and we were 7th in the table with a game in hand.There was the Harewood 4-4 with Spuds, and he'd been ridiculously sent off v Man U, but on the whole I vaguely recall us all mostly being pleased with him, and that he deserved his England call up alongside others like Barry and Ashley Young.You're probably right - might be the rubbish in the second half of the season overwriting the good stuff from the start from my head.5 clean sheets in his first 10 games clearly isn't bad at all.We were probably still a bit picky in those days!
Quote from: Risso on July 27, 2015, 02:40:58 PMQuote from: Dave on July 27, 2015, 02:09:09 PMQuote from: Risso on July 27, 2015, 02:02:05 PMAgreed, but keepers are under the microscope more than most other positions, look at how badly Encks and Carson went down hill after a set back.A lot of my memory of the Enckleman time is a bit fuzzy, but with Carson I'm not sure that he really went down hill - I don't remember him being anything other than mediocre for us. As I recall it was a bit of a shock that he was picked for that Croatia game based on his form at the time.It's easy to forget as that was nearly 8 years ago, blimey how time flies eh? But looking back, he'd only played 10 games for us before the two Autumn England games, and my recollection was that he'd been doing very well. He'd kept five clean sheets out of 10, and we were 7th in the table with a game in hand.There was the Harewood 4-4 with Spuds, and he'd been ridiculously sent off v Man U, but on the whole I vaguely recall us all mostly being pleased with him, and that he deserved his England call up alongside others like Barry and Ashley Young.You're probably right - might be the rubbish in the second half of the season overwriting the good stuff from the start from my head.5 clean sheets in his first 10 games clearly isn't bad at all.
Quote from: Dave on July 27, 2015, 02:09:09 PMQuote from: Risso on July 27, 2015, 02:02:05 PMAgreed, but keepers are under the microscope more than most other positions, look at how badly Encks and Carson went down hill after a set back.A lot of my memory of the Enckleman time is a bit fuzzy, but with Carson I'm not sure that he really went down hill - I don't remember him being anything other than mediocre for us. As I recall it was a bit of a shock that he was picked for that Croatia game based on his form at the time.It's easy to forget as that was nearly 8 years ago, blimey how time flies eh? But looking back, he'd only played 10 games for us before the two Autumn England games, and my recollection was that he'd been doing very well. He'd kept five clean sheets out of 10, and we were 7th in the table with a game in hand.There was the Harewood 4-4 with Spuds, and he'd been ridiculously sent off v Man U, but on the whole I vaguely recall us all mostly being pleased with him, and that he deserved his England call up alongside others like Barry and Ashley Young.
Quote from: Risso on July 27, 2015, 02:02:05 PMAgreed, but keepers are under the microscope more than most other positions, look at how badly Encks and Carson went down hill after a set back.A lot of my memory of the Enckleman time is a bit fuzzy, but with Carson I'm not sure that he really went down hill - I don't remember him being anything other than mediocre for us. As I recall it was a bit of a shock that he was picked for that Croatia game based on his form at the time.
Agreed, but keepers are under the microscope more than most other positions, look at how badly Encks and Carson went down hill after a set back.
May be he was shite in midfield...which is why he's now a goalkeeper.
Three seasons ago he was excellent, two seasons ago good, last season average.He is in a free fall, and we desperately need a reliable keeper.
He's always looking to time waste if he thinks we have something to hold on to so he's negative in his outlook which in turn leads to errors of judgement. He had ages to do something with the ball and then rolled it out to a player under pressure.
Guzan is drinking in the last chance saloon . I don't think TS rates him. Bunn will be in goal soon.