Aston Villa v Norwich City Post-Match Thread

[kippaxvilla2]

And while we're at it, controversy of controversies, Warnock and Hutton are no worse than what we are picking at the moment.

[kippaxvilla2]

I also echo the ridiculous decision to bring Bent on at the time he did.  Is he actually trying to make Bent look shit to justify his dropping and probable exit?

It's better than worrying he thought it was the right thing to do to win the game.

PWS I am not quite sure what you are trying to say here, but I am assuming you are saying the manager bought him on to try and win the game.  Which is fine, but doesn't stand up to scrutiny when you look at the tactics of us trying to waste time from 15 minutes from the end to ensure we got the draw.

[PeterWithesShin]

I also echo the ridiculous decision to bring Bent on at the time he did.  Is he actually trying to make Bent look shit to justify his dropping and probable exit?

It's better than worrying he thought it was the right thing to do to win the game.

PWS I am not quite sure what you are trying to say here, but I am assuming you are saying the manager bought him on to try and win the game.  Which is fine, but doesn't stand up to scrutiny when you look at the tactics of us trying to waste time from 15 minutes from the end to ensure we got the draw.

I'm saying that if Lambert truly believed bringing Bent on was the best option to hold onto 3 points then i'm a bit worried. As he'd have been the last of my choices.

[Witton Warrior]

Right, not long got back. Despite the sending off we were lacklustre to say the least. We didn't deserve to be ahead at half-time IMO. Lambert has again caused me concern about his tactical nous. I said at h/t that Bennett should have been subbed as he was getting killed and was on a yellow. Bringing Benteke off when we had 10 ten men? I'm not his biggest fan, but fair play to Gabby. Played well today. As did Guzan (obviously), Vlaar and Benteke. Also the players seemed really nervous in their play. They need a win from anywhere.

Got to agree with this 1874 apart from the being up at half-time - we had created as much as Norwich so it could have gone either way I reckon.

Gabby got a big groan at one point and then chased down a ball in the area and tried to pull it back - nobody busted a gut to get onto the penalty spot though - I still reckon there is a Villa man trying is damndest for the team.

Think we all agree the Bent sub was "diplomatic"?

The equaliser seemed to come from confusion in the defence as Guzan was pushing defenders into place? Thought the defence was pretty good against a poor team?

I thought Norwich dictated play better in the first half and had more sustained periods of pressure then we did. So they will have felt they shouldn't have been behind at half time. I thought our centre backs were good. The lack of co-ordination between Lowton and Vlaar was exposed at times but that was to be expected. I thought Lowton did himself justice in the CB role. Especially in the second half, made some great blocks. Our best summer signing for sure (other then Brad). Herd wasn't great but I'll let him off because he hasn't had much game time recently and he did do some good things. Lichaj was much more solid then Bennett and you know he won't do anything stupid.

1874  I can't disgaree with your opinion mate just think our forward (Benteke) as better than their fat lump (Holt) when it came to scoring

[1874]

And while we're at it, controversy of controversies, Warnock and Hutton are no worse than what we are picking at the moment.

You'd have Hutton on par with Lowton? Yes, Bennett has had a mixed bag of performances so far. But at least he is young and inexperienced at this level. Warnock at LB was more shocking then Hutton at RB last season IMO. Decent in midfield though.

[Witton Warrior]

Easily the worst midfield i've seen down Villa Park for years. Holman is a headless chicken, Delph is utterly shit, El Ahmadi is inept and Albrighton is an absolute steaming pile of shit.

This team is racing towards relegation, no doubt.

I wish you would not beat about the bush and say it exactly like it is?

He's not far off wrong though is he?

[ciggiesnbeer]

My favourite moment was the Holte vs Guzan 1v1. Guzan completely owned him. Beautiful.

[PeterWithesShin]

Must admit, I wouldn't be adverse to having Warnock as an option in midfield right now.

[Witton Warrior]

I also echo the ridiculous decision to bring Bent on at the time he did.  Is he actually trying to make Bent look shit to justify his dropping and probable exit?

It's better than worrying he thought it was the right thing to do to win the game.

PWS I am not quite sure what you are trying to say here, but I am assuming you are saying the manager bought him on to try and win the game.  Which is fine, but doesn't stand up to scrutiny when you look at the tactics of us trying to waste time from 15 minutes from the end to ensure we got the draw.

I'm saying that if Lambert truly believed bringing Bent on was the best option to hold onto 3 points then i'm a bit worried. As he'd have been the last of my choices.

There was a moment of disbelief where we sit when Bent's number came up as the sub. He doesn't play the "hit them on the break game" - his strenghts lie elswhere....

[PeterWithesShin]

I also echo the ridiculous decision to bring Bent on at the time he did.  Is he actually trying to make Bent look shit to justify his dropping and probable exit?

It's better than worrying he thought it was the right thing to do to win the game.

PWS I am not quite sure what you are trying to say here, but I am assuming you are saying the manager bought him on to try and win the game.  Which is fine, but doesn't stand up to scrutiny when you look at the tactics of us trying to waste time from 15 minutes from the end to ensure we got the draw.

I'm saying that if Lambert truly believed bringing Bent on was the best option to hold onto 3 points then i'm a bit worried. As he'd have been the last of my choices.

There was a moment of disbelief where we sit when Bent's number came up as the sub. He doesn't play the "hit them on the break game" - his strenghts lie elswhere....

Gabby and his pace, Benteke to hold it up, or Weimann to run around and chase everything all make more sense as the lone striker.

[saunders_heroes]

According to Hansen we were "embarrassing" while Norwich were "excellent". This would be the excellent Norwich that created the same amount of decent chances as us (a whopping one) when it was 11 v 11 for nearly an hour. The reality is both were crap until the sending off.

We were embarrassing and Norwich were excellent in everything they did in two-thirds of the pitch. Their attacking was like our midfield, shite. Loved seeing Holt's shot hitting the the corner flag.

Hansen was spot on. We were an embarrassment. Norwich, yes Norwich City played us off the park at Villa Park. Some people need to stop deluding themselves. Our team of championship/cheap foreign imports/youth team rubbish is relegation fodder. January can't come quick enough for us to make some serious panic signings.

[Risso]

Must admit, I wouldn't be adverse to having Warnock as an option in midfield right now.

Has it really come to this.  Bloody hell.  People calling for Warnock and Hutton.  We'll be getting dewy-eyed about the tumbling bear soon.

[jeowje]

Bentekke, Bent, Ireland, N'Zogbia, Guzan. Our only PL standard players. Three of them were on the bench.

We LITERALLY looked like a lower league team in a third round FA cup draw against Premiership opposition today.

[PeterWithesShin]

Must admit, I wouldn't be adverse to having Warnock as an option in midfield right now.

Has it really come to this.  Bloody hell.  People calling for Warnock and Hutton.  We'll be getting dewy-eyed about the tumbling bear soon.

Things are as they are. Do you not think he'd be a useful option right now? Down to 10 men, holding on, i'd have liked Warnock as an option. Only in midfield though.

[Witton Warrior]

I also echo the ridiculous decision to bring Bent on at the time he did.  Is he actually trying to make Bent look shit to justify his dropping and probable exit?

It's better than worrying he thought it was the right thing to do to win the game.

PWS I am not quite sure what you are trying to say here, but I am assuming you are saying the manager bought him on to try and win the game.  Which is fine, but doesn't stand up to scrutiny when you look at the tactics of us trying to waste time from 15 minutes from the end to ensure we got the draw.

I'm saying that if Lambert truly believed bringing Bent on was the best option to hold onto 3 points then i'm a bit worried. As he'd have been the last of my choices.

There was a moment of disbelief where we sit when Bent's number came up as the sub. He doesn't play the "hit them on the break game" - his strenghts lie elswhere....

Gabby and his pace, Benteke to hold it up, or Weimann to run around and chase everything all make more sense as the lone striker.

It worries me PWS but - yes!