Aston Villa v Norwich City Post-Match Thread

[PeterWithesShin]

According to Hansen we were "embarrassing" while Norwich were "excellent". This would be the excellent Norwich that created the same amount of decent chances as us (a whopping one) when it was 11 v 11 for nearly an hour. The reality is both were crap until the sending off.

And Herd was a very very lucky boy having seen the reply.

[kippaxvilla2]

I also echo the ridiculous decision to bring Bent on at the time he did.  Is he actually trying to make Bent look shit to justify his dropping and probable exit?

[hawkeye]

According to Hansen we were "embarrassing" while Norwich were "excellent". This would be the excellent Norwich that created the same amount of decent chances as us (a whopping one) when it was 11 v 11 for nearly an hour. The reality is both were crap until the sending off.

And Herd was a very very lucky boy having seen the reply.

actually i thought we were embaressing, but I would not call Norwich excellent, if they were they surely would have won easily.

[PeterWithesShin]

I also echo the ridiculous decision to bring Bent on at the time he did.  Is he actually trying to make Bent look shit to justify his dropping and probable exit?

It's better than worrying he thought it was the right thing to do to win the game.

[hawkeye]

I also echo the ridiculous decision to bring Bent on at the time he did.  Is he actually trying to make Bent look shit to justify his dropping and probable exit?

It was crazy, in fact all the subs decisions were poor

[villan from luton]

We also are set up pretty negatively IMO. KEA, Delph and Holman are more defensive. Yes Holman is supposed to be an attacking player but he doesn't offer much in the final third. I didn't even notice he was on the pitch for large periods today. KEA was poor and invited pressure at times with poor balls. Delph wasn't much better but I thought he was the best out of the three. This is without doubt the worst Villa midfield I have seen. Albrighton as usual has a poor final ball and decision making. I'd have Ireland and Bannan for Holman and Albrighton next game. 

So you would have Holman out of the team and not Delph

[olaftab]

Easily the worst midfield i've seen down Villa Park for years. Holman is a headless chicken, Delph is utterly shit, El Ahmadi is inept and Albrighton is an absolute steaming pile of shit.

This team is racing towards relegation, no doubt.

I wish you would not beat about the bush and say it exactly like it is?

[kippaxvilla2]

For the record again, I still believe in the manager.  It is too easy and we have done it too often, we have blamed the person in charge to the team too quickly.  However, he does give me the impression that this is a job even he never anticipated how big it would be.  But he isn't helping himself.  With the side he put out, the substitutions he made etc. 

[Rudy Can't Fail]

According to Hansen we were "embarrassing" while Norwich were "excellent". This would be the excellent Norwich that created the same amount of decent chances as us (a whopping one) when it was 11 v 11 for nearly an hour. The reality is both were crap until the sending off.

We were embarrassing and Norwich were excellent in everything they did in two-thirds of the pitch. Their attacking was like our midfield, shite. Loved seeing Holt's shot hitting the the corner flag.

[villan from luton]

Herd should certainly have been off, the fat lad Dowd was about 5 yards away though so probably didnt see.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Herd should certainly have been off, the fat lad Dowd was about 5 yards away though so probably didnt see.

Thats really rude about the ref mate, no call for that. She is pregnant FFS.

[kippaxvilla2]

I honestly think the major problem is that the players aren't good enough.

Look at that squad objectively and pick out the quality. This was my main worry at the end of the transfer window, we largely bought average championship players.

Benteke and Vlaar look decent but two or three players of proven middling quality was never going to be enough.

It is really the culmination of three years of so of dreadful mismanagement / stewardship of the club.

I think it is unrealistic to expect the manager to work miracles, but it is equally unrealistic to pretend that "young and hungry" (and were we a cynical lot, we could add "cheap" to that) is going to be a magical solution to our increasing decline.

But doesn't what you say (and I entirely agree with it) make it even more astounding that the players who could make a difference (difference between relegation and 4th bottom admittedly) Ireland, Bannan, Nzog, Bannan, Bent aren''t getting a start at the expense of Delph, Albrighton, Herd, Bennett, Gabby, even KEA.  It really does defy belief.

[1874]

So you would have Holman out of the team and not Delph

Yes. Just on the basis that Holman's passing is much poorer. I'm no fan of Delph but he was the best of the centre mids today. I probably have him over KEA on current form. Which just goes to show how utterly shit our midfield is.

[PeterWithesShin]

I honestly think the major problem is that the players aren't good enough.

Look at that squad objectively and pick out the quality. This was my main worry at the end of the transfer window, we largely bought average championship players.

Benteke and Vlaar look decent but two or three players of proven middling quality was never going to be enough.

It is really the culmination of three years of so of dreadful mismanagement / stewardship of the club.

I think it is unrealistic to expect the manager to work miracles, but it is equally unrealistic to pretend that "young and hungry" (and were we a cynical lot, we could add "cheap" to that) is going to be a magical solution to our increasing decline.

But doesn't what you say (and I entirely agree with it) make it even more astounding that the players who could make a difference (difference between relegation and 4th bottom admittedly) Ireland, Bannan, Nzog, Bannan, Bent aren''t getting a start at the expense of Delph, Albrighton, Herd, Bennett, Gabby, even KEA.  It really does defy belief.

Bannan could certainly make a difference if there's 2 of him 

[kippaxvilla2]

I honestly think the major problem is that the players aren't good enough.

Look at that squad objectively and pick out the quality. This was my main worry at the end of the transfer window, we largely bought average championship players.

Benteke and Vlaar look decent but two or three players of proven middling quality was never going to be enough.

It is really the culmination of three years of so of dreadful mismanagement / stewardship of the club.

I think it is unrealistic to expect the manager to work miracles, but it is equally unrealistic to pretend that "young and hungry" (and were we a cynical lot, we could add "cheap" to that) is going to be a magical solution to our increasing decline.

But doesn't what you say (and I entirely agree with it) make it even more astounding that the players who could make a difference (difference between relegation and 4th bottom admittedly) Ireland, Bannan, Nzog, Bannan, Bent aren''t getting a start at the expense of Delph, Albrighton, Herd, Bennett, Gabby, even KEA.  It really does defy belief.

Bannan could certainly make a difference if there's 2 of him 

Very good - I am not even pissed either.  Pissed off yes.