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Online Clampy

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Re: Kick it Out Campaign
« Reply #75 on: October 23, 2012, 11:51:10 AM »
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I mean every single team has today a healthy mix of black / white / foreign players whom all seem to get on.


Plenty of foreign managers as well. But no black ones.

Something strange there

There's Chris Powell.

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Re: Kick it Out Campaign
« Reply #76 on: October 23, 2012, 11:52:36 AM »
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I mean every single team has today a healthy mix of black / white / foreign players whom all seem to get on.


Plenty of foreign managers as well. But no black ones.

Something strange there

There's Chris Powell.

Hughton?

Offline Risso

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Re: Kick it Out Campaign
« Reply #77 on: October 23, 2012, 11:56:26 AM »
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I mean every single team has today a healthy mix of black / white / foreign players whom all seem to get on.


Plenty of foreign managers as well. But no black ones.

Something strange there

How many black players take their coaching badges?  I've no idea by the way, just asking.

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Kick it Out Campaign
« Reply #78 on: October 23, 2012, 11:57:07 AM »
I know there's Powell and Hughton and there have been a few others in the past but the number of black managers compared to black players would suggest that someobdy is choosing not to employ black people as managers?

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Kick it Out Campaign
« Reply #79 on: October 23, 2012, 11:58:15 AM »
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How many black players take their coaching badges?  I've no idea by the way, just asking.

Nor me

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Re: Kick it Out Campaign
« Reply #80 on: October 23, 2012, 12:07:13 PM »
Ince, Anderson, the bloke at Wolves ?

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Re: Kick it Out Campaign
« Reply #81 on: October 23, 2012, 12:12:51 PM »
Ince, Anderson, the bloke at Wolves ?

You mean Terry Connor. I don't think he'll get another manager's job again judging by his last effort.

Offline Ger Regan

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Re: Kick it Out Campaign
« Reply #82 on: October 23, 2012, 12:14:21 PM »
Ince, Anderson, the bloke at Wolves ?

You mean Terry Connor. I don't think he'll get another manager's job again judging by his last effort.
Not disagreeing that he was poor, but plenty of other equally poor managers get re-employed.

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Re: Kick it Out Campaign
« Reply #83 on: October 23, 2012, 12:14:38 PM »
I know there's Powell and Hughton and there have been a few others in the past but the number of black managers compared to black players would suggest that someobdy is choosing not to employ black people as managers?

There could be other reasons.  A lot of managers either seem to be getting on a bit, eg Ferguson and Wenger, or foreign.  On the age thing, the first wave of black players like Luther Blissett and Viv Anderson are still in their 50s, so there aren't going to be any black managers from the Ferguson/Houllier age range for example.  There's a good chance that that argument is a load of rubbish, mind.

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Re: Kick it Out Campaign
« Reply #84 on: October 23, 2012, 12:15:31 PM »
Ince, Anderson, the bloke at Wolves ?

You mean Terry Connor. I don't think he'll get another manager's job again judging by his last effort.

yeah thats him and your probably right.

Hope Powell ?

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Kick it Out Campaign
« Reply #85 on: October 23, 2012, 12:17:18 PM »
But how many premier league managers are white and under 50?

Hughes
Moyes
Lambert
Atkins
Di Matteo
Clarke
Villa Boas
Laudrup
etc

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Re: Kick it Out Campaign
« Reply #86 on: October 23, 2012, 12:18:59 PM »
But how many premier league managers are white and under 50?

Hughes
Moyes
Lambert
Atkins
Di Matteo
Clarke
Villa Boas
Laudrup
etc


How many of those are English?

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Re: Kick it Out Campaign
« Reply #87 on: October 23, 2012, 12:19:08 PM »
What i dont get otrher than a piece of trash like Terry and a foreign moron like Suarez, 

If Suarez is a 'foreign' moron should Terry not be an 'English' moron?

Hookey isn't saying he's a moron because he's foreign.  But seeing as Suarez based his defence on the fact as a foreigner, his words don't have the same meaning in his own country, I think it's fair comment.

Thanks  for the support- Suarez's defence was that it was lost in translation and that it was not frowned upon in his country - he is amoron for not knowing it is not acceptable in this country

Terry - knew exactly what he said / did was wrong

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Kick it Out Campaign
« Reply #88 on: October 23, 2012, 12:22:57 PM »
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How many of those are English?

That's true

So if English managers don't get much of a sniff of the top jobs, black English managers get an even rougher deal?

What do you reckon? at least 25% of players are black? only 3 black managers in the football league.

I don't know what the reason is for such a small number but the only conclusion I can reach is that it's because they're black

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Re: Kick it Out Campaign
« Reply #89 on: October 23, 2012, 12:26:45 PM »
Have we ever thought that there are not a load of ex black players chomping on the bit to be managers

Lets face it , if its not stress related health problems then its almost guaranteed that they will get dogs abuse at some point. Considering the Likes of Anderson, Ince, John Barnes, Gullit were all great players yet piss poor managers

Is that not the same for the white players over time - being a great player does not guarantee being a decent coach

Maybe the modern ex players have earned so much money they just dont fancy it

I really cannot believe that any chairman would give a toss about the guys skin colour if they were good enough to be employed as a manager

If you look around the world there are not even black coaches at most of the African teams - dont really know why?

 


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