Kick it Out Campaign

[The Laughing Policeman]

I just don't understand why the players are having a go at Kick It Out. As someone has already said they don't have any official links to the FA and are basically an educational charity.
I heard one of their representatives on 5Live this morning say that they get by on £300,000 a year. I don't know where their funding comes from but most of those who refused to wear the t-shirt earn far more than that in a month, maybe they should put their money where their mouths are and donate a weeks wages to the campaign to help Kick It Out.

[Ger Regan]

I just don't understand why the players are having a go at Kick It Out. As someone has already said they don't have any official links to the FA and are basically an educational charity.
I heard one of their representatives on 5Live this morning say that they get by on £300,000 a year. I don't know where their funding comes from but most of those who refused to wear the t-shirt earn far more than that in a month, maybe they should put their money where their mouths are and donate a weeks wages to the campaign to help Kick It Out.

As I said, it might not be meant as a direct go at them, more at football's inaction in general. If that's the case, then I think it's a perfectly reasonable way of highlighting perceived problems with the movement.

[The Villa Werewolf]

I heard some whispers over the weekend that some of the players involved in this boycott are rumoured to be considering resigning from the PFA and setting up their own union - which, reading between the lines, I imagine would be a black players' union.

Quite how they think forming a separatist group helps with integration and equality I don't know.

[bertlambshank]

I heard some whispers over the weekend that some of the players involved in this boycott are rumoured to be considering resigning from the PFA and setting up their own union - which, reading between the lines, I imagine would be a black players' union.

Quite how they think forming a separatist group helps with integration and equality I don't know.

That will not help things,just make it worse.Just look at the police.

[Chris Smith]

If players just put on the T shirt just because they are told to then it undermines the credibility of the campaign, in my opinion. If he, and others, have concerns with the organisation then they are perfectly within their rights to draw attention to it in this way.

[5ft811st2 Durham]

Fancy being called racists by The Mail.

It's like walking down the street and somebody shouting 'Oi Percy you fucking nonce'! You turn round and it's Jimmy fucking Savile.

I doubt that Gary Dobson and David Norris would agree with you. 

[tomd2103]

I just don't understand why the players are having a go at Kick It Out. As someone has already said they don't have any official links to the FA and are basically an educational charity.
I heard one of their representatives on 5Live this morning say that they get by on £300,000 a year. I don't know where their funding comes from but most of those who refused to wear the t-shirt earn far more than that in a month, maybe they should put their money where their mouths are and donate a weeks wages to the campaign to help Kick It Out.

As I said, it might not be meant as a direct go at them, more at football's inaction in general. If that's the case, then I think it's a perfectly reasonable way of highlighting perceived problems with the movement.

Those who have been quick to criticise Kick it Out haven't been forthcoming with ideas about how to tackle the issue have they?  T

[Ger Regan]

Those who have been quick to criticise Kick it Out haven't been forthcoming with ideas about how to tackle the issue have they?  T

Again, is it specifically Kick It Out or football in general? And what's the alternative? Say nothing? Comply? Don't rock the boat for fear of upsetting the manager? I just find it very peculiar that people are getting criticised for taking a stand on a subject they feel very strongly about, and that has clearly not gone away.

[Hookeysmith]

What i dont get otrher than a piece of trash like Terry and a foreign moron like Suarez, both very isolated cases, do we really have a problem in the UK? I mean every single team has today a healthy mix of black / white / foreign players whom all seem to get on.

Surely its the colour of the shirt that is more important than the colour of the players skin

I think this country ought to be proud that it has risen from the dark days when the likes of Batson, Cunningham and Regis could open a market stall with all the fruit and vegtables thrown at them compared to now. Lets face it both the Ferdinands, especially the aggreived one Anton has made a very good living out of having only average talent - being black has hardly held him back has it

Yes the FA was pathetic in the Terry case because if Barton got 12 games for booting someone up the arse then Terry should have got a season long ban - at least.

As for the actual "Kick it out " campaign - you would have thought the players in question would have gave it their full support at this monent rather than rebuff it. Maybe a donation from their huge salaries would have helped the cause - or maybe they dont feel that way about it

Oh and as for ferguson - the hypercritical cnut - "A union is stronger when they stand together"  what like your one man strike against the BBC

[Ger Regan]

What about the racist abuse the Oldham player suffered at Liverpool last season? Demba Ba on sunday as well apparently? The ballboy who appeared to be abused a couple of weeks ago? The two you mentioned are not isolated cases (as much as some of those who, justifiably, had a go at Serbia would like to think otherwise). That's just in football alone, not the wider community, where groups such as the EDL, while certainly a minority, are big enough to be considered a worry.

And using the "being black hasn't hampered them making a good living from football" argument as evidence of there being no problem of racism is to simplify things to such a stupid extent that it's barely worth acknowledging.

[TopDeck113]

Mail on Sunday - a bit-part journalist who, in his mind, should be covering Spurs-Chelsea rather being at The Cottage. His response? To jump on the Refusal-to-Wear-the-Shirt bandwagon in the hope of raising the profile of his match report.   Good statement - yet again - by the Villa.

Rio Ferdinand - just shown - yet again - that he's not the brighest spark, which doesn't do the credibility of his stance on any given issue any favours.  Fergie has every right to be absolutely livid on this - and will help accelerate Ferdinand's exit.  He'll be back at West Ham next season.

[Ger Regan]

Rio Ferdinand - just shown - yet again - that he's not the brighest spark, which doesn't do the credibility of his stance on any given issue any favours.  Fergie has every right to be absolutely livid on this - and will help accelerate Ferdinand's exit.  He'll be back at West Ham next season.

Ok, explain it to me. How on earth is a man who boxed himself into a corner by saying that all his players would support a cause (when it was apparent that at least one does not believe enough is being done on racism) is justifiably angry about a player standing up for what he believes in? He did not need to make such a definitive statement in his press conference, so he only has himself to blame.

[Chris Jameson]

What i dont get otrher than a piece of trash like Terry and a foreign moron like Suarez, 

If Suarez is a 'foreign' moron should Terry not be an 'English' moron?

[Risso]

What i dont get otrher than a piece of trash like Terry and a foreign moron like Suarez, 

If Suarez is a 'foreign' moron should Terry not be an 'English' moron?

Hookey isn't saying he's a moron because he's foreign.  But seeing as Suarez based his defence on the fact as a foreigner, his words don't have the same meaning in his own country, I think it's fair comment.

[Chico Hamilton III]

I mean every single team has today a healthy mix of black / white / foreign players whom all seem to get on.

Plenty of foreign managers as well. But no black ones.

Something strange there