Kick it Out Campaign

[Legion]

Nice one.

[Clampy]

How on earth could you 'manage black' anyway?

By getting them to release Wonderful Life.

I've got that bloody song in my head now.

[brian green]

My biggest concern is that the whole racism issue is being hijacked for personal purposes.   There are black players and ex players seeking to raise their profiles as wannabe pundits and managers by sucking in the oxygen of publicity which it offers and equally self seeking white players and ex players who want to raise their standings as potential pundits and movers and shakers of the game by showing how PC they are.

The whole thing has become like the gay bishops deadlock in the Church of England namely a defining issue which should not be an issue at all.   People must be respected whether they are football players or dinner ladies.   Their colour, sex, age, religion, ethnicity or social status is of no relevance whatever.

[danlanza]

My biggest concern is that the whole racism issue is being hijacked for personal purposes.   There are black players and ex players seeking to raise their profiles as wannabe pundits and managers by sucking in the oxygen of publicity which it offers and equally self seeking white players and ex players who want to raise their standings as potential pundits and movers and shakers of the game by showing how PC they are.

The whole thing has become like the gay bishops deadlock in the Church of England namely a defining issue which should not be an issue at all.   People must be respected whether they are football players or dinner ladies.   Their colour, sex, age, religion, ethnicity or social status is of no relevance whatever.

Absolute truth. Shame our world does not work like that. It would be a far better place if that was the case brian.

[olaftab]

Can we stop referring to people as "black managers". There is no such identity or job. No one is managing black!

Er, what?  What on earth should we call managers who are black then?  "Managers who are black"?

So what do you call mangers who are white?

[Ger Regan]

In all fairness Aftab, I think it's perfectly reasonable to describe managers as black or white during a discussion about race and possible inequalities between managers of various races. I can't say that I've noticed the term "black manager" being regularly used in any other circumstance.

[Risso]

In all fairness Aftab, I think it's perfectly reasonable to describe managers as black or white during a discussion about race and possible inequalities between managers of various races. I can't say that I've noticed the term "black manager" being regularly used in any other circumstance.

Well indeed.  Quite what point Aftab was trying to make, I really don't know.

[PeterWithesShin]

Apparently the Mail on Sunday have said this

The Mail on Sunday has issued the following apology to the Club: "Last week we said one Aston Villa player had thrown his Kick It Out shirt away in disgust and another had removed his early.

"The Mail on Sunday accepts that half the players were asked to remove shirts to split the squad during a pre-match warm-up.

"There was no protest and all the players fully support Kick It Out.

"We are happy to make that clear and apologise for any misunderstanding."

[Legion]

The Daily Mail have issued an apology to Aston Villa Football Club and it reads as such:
 

The Mail on Sunday has issued the following apology to the Club: "Last week we said one Aston Villa player had thrown his Kick It Out shirt away in disgust and another had removed his early.
 
"The Mail on Sunday accepts that half the players were asked to remove shirts to split the squad during a pre-match warm-up.

 "There was no protest and all the players fully support Kick It Out.
 
"We are happy to make that clear and apologise for any misunderstanding."

[Chris Jameson]

So what do you call mangers who are white?

I've got a book that is possibly the most badly edited I've ever read in which the word 'manager' is forever bring spelled as 'manger'. Bet any money that a newspaper tomorrow makes the same mistake!

The book is by Dennis Munday and is about The Jam. Avoid, it's rubbish!

[Percy McCarthy]

Oh dear Chris, read your post again.

I haven't quoted it because I like you. You're a lovely human bring.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

The Daily Mail have issued an apology to Aston Villa Football Club and it reads as such:
 

The Mail on Sunday has issued the following apology to the Club: "Last week we said one Aston Villa player had thrown his Kick It Out shirt away in disgust and another had removed his early.
 
"The Mail on Sunday accepts that half the players were asked to remove shirts to split the squad during a pre-match warm-up.

 "There was no protest and all the players fully support Kick It Out.
 
"We are happy to make that clear and apologise for any misunderstanding."

Blah blah blah.
Bollox to The Mail. 

[Chris Jameson]

Oh dear Chris, read your post again.

I haven't quoted it because I like you. You're a lovely human bring.

Oh heck, what have I done now?

[Ger Regan]

Read it. Carefully. *winky thing*

[Chris Jameson]

Help me out here, I've retired upstairs with a headache/ borderline migraine whilst friends are round with their really loud children and am staring at my phone screen which isn't helping. Have I made myself look as bad as Delph? Am I a Fabian?