January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours

[django]

Some of Newcastles players might turn out to be good, or they might be like our very own KEA who (positive spin) will take a long time to adjust to the premier league (not so positive spin) or are total shit, despite looking decent on a couple of you tube videos.

There's a chance that may turn out to be the case, yes, but what is almost certain is that our squad isn't going to magically improve in quality if we don't buy anyone.

"They might be shit" isn't the best of arguments against buying new players.

No I know. It's not even a good argument against the doom and gloom. The doom and gloom is what makes sense. I just can't handle the relentlessness of it, as justified as it may be. The only argument I can think of against signing players is we haven't got any money, that's what I think the problem is and feeling depressed isn't going to change that.

[mike]

Not sure what else he can say. He has been left up shit creek without a paddle by Randy and he has to at least try to maintain a front of confidence even if its an increasingly frail facade. The only other option would be to come out fighting and openly criticise Randy and try to force his hand.

Well that's what i would do. Put some distance between himself and Lerner/Faulkner. He'll probably get the tin-tack if he does, but at least his reputation won't be completely trashed as it will be if we go down. He should remember TSM was in complete harmony with Lerner and Co this time last year and it didn't save him. He's being lined up as the scapegoat and he doesn't seem to realise it

If (looking ever more likely) we are relegated it will largely be because Lerner didn't want to spend money, so why would he then sack a manager, which will cost him more money? Why does he need a scapegoat when he quite clearly doesn't give a shit what we think? More depressingly, I don't think he'll be that bothered. I think he has written off the money he has spent and got tied up in Aston Villa and as long as it breaks even from now on,  which it can probably do quite nicely in the Championship, he'll be happy.

I haven't got a tattoo, he has, but only one of us is a fan of Aston Villa. Having said that, he invested handsomely at the same time Tottenham did; they bought Bale, we bought Sidwell. I can see why he'd be disillusioned.

[David_Nab]

Dale Stephens who we been linked with alot ,not going to happen club can't agree fee and player has been advised by agents/other players not to come to us as we are in freefall.From poster on VT who knows player at Charlton..

Just have no words as to what happening with the club at mo

[django]

I haven't got a tattoo, he has, but only one of us is a fan of Aston Villa. Having said that, he invested handsomely at the same time Tottenham did; they bought Bale, we bought Sidwell. I can see why he'd be disillusioned.

Dale Stephens who we been linked with alot ,not going to happen club can't agree fee and player has been advised by agents/other players not to come to us as we are in freefall.From poster on VT who knows player at Charlton..

Just have no words as to what happening with the club at mo

These two posts sum up where we are and why we're there.

[dave.woodhall]

I haven't got a tattoo, he has, but only one of us is a fan of Aston Villa. Having said that, he invested handsomely at the same time Tottenham did; they bought Bale, we bought Sidwell. I can see why he'd be disillusioned.

Dale Stephens who we been linked with alot ,not going to happen club can't agree fee and player has been advised by agents/other players not to come to us as we are in freefall.From poster on VT who knows player at Charlton..

Just have no words as to what happening with the club at mo

These two posts sum up where we are and why we're there.

Because we take ITK stuff off the internet as gospel?

[Greg N'Ash]

Not sure what else he can say. He has been left up shit creek without a paddle by Randy and he has to at least try to maintain a front of confidence even if its an increasingly frail facade. The only other option would be to come out fighting and openly criticise Randy and try to force his hand.

Well that's what i would do. Put some distance between himself and Lerner/Faulkner. He'll probably get the tin-tack if he does, but at least his reputation won't be completely trashed as it will be if we go down. He should remember TSM was in complete harmony with Lerner and Co this time last year and it didn't save him. He's being lined up as the scapegoat and he doesn't seem to realise it

If (looking ever more likely) we are relegated it will largely be because Lerner didn't want to spend money, so why would he then sack a manager, which will cost him more money? Why does he need a scapegoat when he quite clearly doesn't give a shit what we think? More depressingly, I don't think he'll be that bothered. I think he has written off the money he has spent and got tied up in Aston Villa and as long as it breaks even from now on,  which it can probably do quite nicely in the Championship, he'll be happy.

If that was the case why did he sack TSM after last season for seemingly following his orders to the letter?  Lambert will go if we go down and from his point of view I can't see what he gains. Presumably he's not paid enough not to work again for the next 20 years and lets face it he'll be lucky to get a gig back at colchester. We may have diminished in stature over time, but still taking us down would be a career ender. Like Everton or tottenham getting relegated. Look at the last two clowns who did it - one ended up at 4th division wolves, the other had to slope back off to scotland because no-one would touch him.. Even the nutters at Forest wouldn't have given TSM the gig if he's taken us down.

[Ron Manager]

As we are going to sign nobody should not Lambert be looking at different ways of utilising his players.

1.Warnock has turned in decent performances in midfield for Blackburn and for us.
2. Benteke could be used at centre back in the short term. Dion was successful and Allan Evans when they moved back
3 Leaving Bent and Weimann up front
4 Carruthers looked promising last season in his short spells give him a chance.
5. Move Clark to defensive midfield where he might do some good.
6. Get a free transfer winger in to supply Bent with a decent service so he can score goals
7 Move N'Zogbia to left back where he has played for Newcastle and use Bennett as an attacking midfielder

 So we have                   Guzan
                                     Lowton
                                     Zog
                                     Vlaar
                                     Benteke
                                     
                                     Warnock
                                     Delph
                                     Clark
                                     Bennett/Carruthers/Free transfer winger
             
                                     Wiemann
                                     Bent

                                   

[mike]

Not sure what else he can say. He has been left up shit creek without a paddle by Randy and he has to at least try to maintain a front of confidence even if its an increasingly frail facade. The only other option would be to come out fighting and openly criticise Randy and try to force his hand.

Well that's what i would do. Put some distance between himself and Lerner/Faulkner. He'll probably get the tin-tack if he does, but at least his reputation won't be completely trashed as it will be if we go down. He should remember TSM was in complete harmony with Lerner and Co this time last year and it didn't save him. He's being lined up as the scapegoat and he doesn't seem to realise it

If (looking ever more likely) we are relegated it will largely be because Lerner didn't want to spend money, so why would he then sack a manager, which will cost him more money? Why does he need a scapegoat when he quite clearly doesn't give a shit what we think? More depressingly, I don't think he'll be that bothered. I think he has written off the money he has spent and got tied up in Aston Villa and as long as it breaks even from now on,  which it can probably do quite nicely in the Championship, he'll be happy.

If that was the case why did he sack TSM after last season for seemingly following his orders to the letter?  Lambert will go if we go down and from his point of view I can't see what he gains. Presumably he's not paid enough not to work again for the next 20 years and lets face it he'll be lucky to get a gig back at colchester. We may have diminished in stature over time, but still taking us down would be a career ender. Like Everton or tottenham getting relegated. Look at the last two clowns who did it - one ended up at 4th division wolves, the other had to slope back off to scotland because no-one would touch him.. Even the nutters at Forest wouldn't have given TSM the gig if he's taken us down.

Take your point about TSM but I think where its different is that Randy has given up in the intervening period.

[Greg N'Ash]

Not sure what else he can say. He has been left up shit creek without a paddle by Randy and he has to at least try to maintain a front of confidence even if its an increasingly frail facade. The only other option would be to come out fighting and openly criticise Randy and try to force his hand.

Well that's what i would do. Put some distance between himself and Lerner/Faulkner. He'll probably get the tin-tack if he does, but at least his reputation won't be completely trashed as it will be if we go down. He should remember TSM was in complete harmony with Lerner and Co this time last year and it didn't save him. He's being lined up as the scapegoat and he doesn't seem to realise it

If (looking ever more likely) we are relegated it will largely be because Lerner didn't want to spend money, so why would he then sack a manager, which will cost him more money? Why does he need a scapegoat when he quite clearly doesn't give a shit what we think? More depressingly, I don't think he'll be that bothered. I think he has written off the money he has spent and got tied up in Aston Villa and as long as it breaks even from now on,  which it can probably do quite nicely in the Championship, he'll be happy.

If that was the case why did he sack TSM after last season for seemingly following his orders to the letter?  Lambert will go if we go down and from his point of view I can't see what he gains. Presumably he's not paid enough not to work again for the next 20 years and lets face it he'll be lucky to get a gig back at colchester. We may have diminished in stature over time, but still taking us down would be a career ender. Like Everton or tottenham getting relegated. Look at the last two clowns who did it - one ended up at 4th division wolves, the other had to slope back off to scotland because no-one would touch him.. Even the nutters at Forest wouldn't have given TSM the gig if he's taken us down.

Take your point about TSM but I think where its different is that Randy has given up in the intervening period.

why give lambchop 20m then? Anyway we're all guessing because none of it makes any sense to me.
Lerner won't give him money because we're skint but is willing to lose a fortune going down? eh?
Lerner thinks the squad is good enough to stay up so wont give him money? Buh?
Lambchop has convinced Lerner he can keep us up? Nurse!

whole thing is mental

[pauliewalnuts]

If we are not going to buy anyone, then we should not be sending Warnock on loan to Wolves, we should be playing him.

I appreciate that means a bit of pride-swallowing from the manager, but Bennett is fucking hopeless, and it feels like there is a queue of sides who have sussed out that attacking us down that flank and getting balls into the box is the way to undo us.

[Dave Clark Five]

If we are not going to buy anyone, then we should not be sending Warnock on loan to Wolves, we should be playing him.

I appreciate that means a bit of pride-swallowing from the manager, but Bennett is fucking hopeless, and it feels like there is a queue of sides who have sussed out that attacking us down that flank and getting balls into the box is the way to undo us.

Correct. Can't have another Poison Dwarf falling out with players but still lining their pockets. Getting closer and closer to wanting Lambert out. Lerner out regardless.

[mike]

Not sure what else he can say. He has been left up shit creek without a paddle by Randy and he has to at least try to maintain a front of confidence even if its an increasingly frail facade. The only other option would be to come out fighting and openly criticise Randy and try to force his hand.

Well that's what i would do. Put some distance between himself and Lerner/Faulkner. He'll probably get the tin-tack if he does, but at least his reputation won't be completely trashed as it will be if we go down. He should remember TSM was in complete harmony with Lerner and Co this time last year and it didn't save him. He's being lined up as the scapegoat and he doesn't seem to realise it

If (looking ever more likely) we are relegated it will largely be because Lerner didn't want to spend money, so why would he then sack a manager, which will cost him more money? Why does he need a scapegoat when he quite clearly doesn't give a shit what we think? More depressingly, I don't think he'll be that bothered. I think he has written off the money he has spent and got tied up in Aston Villa and as long as it breaks even from now on,  which it can probably do quite nicely in the Championship, he'll be happy.

If that was the case why did he sack TSM after last season for seemingly following his orders to the letter?  Lambert will go if we go down and from his point of view I can't see what he gains. Presumably he's not paid enough not to work again for the next 20 years and lets face it he'll be lucky to get a gig back at colchester. We may have diminished in stature over time, but still taking us down would be a career ender. Like Everton or tottenham getting relegated. Look at the last two clowns who did it - one ended up at 4th division wolves, the other had to slope back off to scotland because no-one would touch him.. Even the nutters at Forest wouldn't have given TSM the gig if he's taken us down.

Take your point about TSM but I think where its different is that Randy has given up in the intervening period.

why give lambchop 20m then? Anyway we're all guessing because none of it makes any sense to me.
Lerner won't give him money because we're skint but is willing to lose a fortune going down? eh?
Lerner thinks the squad is good enough to stay up so wont give him money? Buh?
Lambchop has convinced Lerner he can keep us up? Nurse!

whole thing is mental

I think a new manager and £20 million was his last throw of the dice. 'If that doesn't work, then fuck it'. It's like a car that you keep spending money on to get through the MOT but eventually think, 'it's not worth it'. Except if you own a 1959 MGA then it emphatically is worth it, because you own something special that will never repay you financially but will make you feel slightly happier about the short pointless time we spend on earth. Sadly, Randy thinks we're a 2000 Mondeo which no longer justifies the cost of a new exhaust.

[Des Little]

418 pages on absolutely nothing at all. Who'd have thunk it?

[pauliewalnuts]

418 pages on absolutely nothing at all. Who'd have thunk it?

Even Eastie has given up.

[VILLA MOLE]

i keep thinking about Faulkner going on about us being more dynamic ?

i think i need to go and re look up what this word means