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Author Topic: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours  (Read 1896801 times)

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #1485 on: December 07, 2012, 11:07:37 PM »
Seen a few like Charlie Austin in the past. Older forum members will recall Derek Hales. Looked like a pirate. Vicious finisher for Charlton in
the second div(now the Championship) moved to Derby in the top Div ans stopped scoring.

Same with Jermaine Beckford in more recent times.
Beckford's one season in the Premier League, he scored more than we seem to expect Gabby to manage because he runs around a lot.

Austin, when he plays in the Premier League could collapse. Or he could be a Darren Bent, Robbie Keane, Dion Dublin, Yakubu or Kevin Phillips. Sometime players do adapt. Sometimes they don't.

I'm not sure that most of us have seen enough of him to judge one way or the other.

It is a shame that there is not the ability to put a deal in place to loan him for say 750k for 6 months, with a fee agreed, so you could test him out in the premier league. Maybe with a player going there for 6 months too.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #1486 on: December 07, 2012, 11:39:48 PM »
I'm sure there's the ability, it's just not something Burnley are likely to want to do. Instead we just need the manager and staff to recognise whether a player would be able to adapt or not. I think we do and signing Benteke was a sign that he can do just that.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #1487 on: December 08, 2012, 12:14:20 AM »
I'd sign Trotter & Austin - for the right place. However their clubs will want a fortune (especially in regards to Austin), so forget it.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #1488 on: December 08, 2012, 11:48:56 AM »
Don't let him do it. Robbie our player!!

'ARRY KEANE ON AGEING FORWARD
QPR have struggled this season due to the presence of a squad bloated by 30plus, over-the-hill, half-decent-a-few-years-ago international players that seemingly lack the edge to achieve but receive nice high wages for doing so.

Harry Redknapp is addressing this issue by looking to sign 32-year-old international striker Robbie Keane, currently plying his trade at LA Galaxy, in addition to having 30-year-old international defender Tal Ben Haim on trial.

"I haven't spoken to him [Keane] yet but he would be an interesting player. He's a good pro and he would be the ideal type to have around for sure because he would give us something," Harry is quoted as saying in pretty much every paper this morning.

Two salient points:
1. "Interesting player" is presumably the new "top player"
2. Keane could become the 20th player aged 30 or over contracted to QPR. Jeez.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #1489 on: December 08, 2012, 11:51:02 AM »
Dean Cox of Leyton Orient. Classic fast speedy winger like Mickey Wright of old..we need someone to feed Benteke and Gabby..

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #1490 on: December 08, 2012, 01:57:36 PM »
Has Redknapp ever ruled anybody out, ever?

"Yeeeuuuuurrrghhhh, Pol Pots a gud playah. He's been a bit nawt ee bat nobody's purfick."

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #1491 on: December 09, 2012, 12:51:23 PM »
No to Trotter and Austin and haven't got a clue about the other bloke.
Trotter and Austin?
Dross.
We need some experience and quality.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #1492 on: December 09, 2012, 01:18:36 PM »
No to Trotter and Austin and haven't got a clue about the other bloke.
Trotter and Austin?
Dross.
We need some experience and quality.

I do hope Austin goes somewhere and is a brilliant you know. Just to bring this back up. By this assessment, most of the players we signed in the summer were not worth signing. Yeah a couple of older heads would be useful of course, but only if they are better than what we have and will improve the team. Choice between a younger player who you believe will have the ability to become very good and an older player of similar standard with little room for improvement for a bigger wage and cost and I would go for the younger player. We have signed "experienced" players for a long time, and lets face it, Dunne, Warnock, Collins, Hutton, Sidwell, Reo Coker, Heskey etc have not exactly been roaring successes. Experience is needed, but at the right price, and have to justify their place in the side.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #1493 on: December 09, 2012, 01:21:23 PM »
I understand the idea of signing young prospects and some of ours have done really well. However we need to sign players who have the best chance of coming in and making an immediate impact now to supplement those youngsters. So quality experience gives us the best chance of that.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #1494 on: December 09, 2012, 01:24:26 PM »
No to Trotter and Austin and haven't got a clue about the other bloke.
Trotter and Austin?
Dross.
We need some experience and quality.

I do hope Austin goes somewhere and is a brilliant you know. Just to bring this back up. By this assessment, most of the players we signed in the summer were not worth signing. Yeah a couple of older heads would be useful of course, but only if they are better than what we have and will improve the team. Choice between a younger player who you believe will have the ability to become very good and an older player of similar standard with little room for improvement for a bigger wage and cost and I would go for the younger player. We have signed "experienced" players for a long time, and lets face it, Dunne, Warnock, Collins, Hutton, Sidwell, Reo Coker, Heskey etc have not exactly been roaring successes. Experience is needed, but at the right price, and have to justify their place in the side.

I'm well aware of the value (and cost cutting side) of bringing younger players in, but there is a distinct danger of overdoing it.
We need an experienced quality midfielder to help out Westwood, an older head in the forward line and defence wouldn't hurt either.
Fingers crossed that the Sleeping Yank will provide the necessary for Lambert.

Dunne, Warnock, Collins, Hutton, Sidwell, Reo Coker, Heskey that you mentioned were all signed by O'Hasbeen, I would trust Lambert to have more transfer market nous and possibly look at Europe.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2012, 02:58:16 PM by Rip Van doin' the Lambert walk »

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #1495 on: December 09, 2012, 01:28:41 PM »
I quite like the 3-5-2, so if we signed any wide players, they need to be defensively efficient.

Think we still require one more experienced CB to replace Dunne (or Done). A creative midfielder has to be the first order of business, someone capable of picking a killer pass and bursting into the area.

A quality front man to play off Benteke. We need a footballing forward who's able to link play when required, and also with the nous to read the big mans flick ons. I love Eke, and he's a real touch of class but his finishing is to erratic to be a 20 goal a year man. If we could find a younger Robbie Keane, it'd be ideal, but Keano on a temp basis would work for the time being.

I think we've found something in the back line, and indeed with the Bannan and Westwood combo. In terms of the team yesterday, I think there's a place for a quality signing where Gabby and Holman were playing. Possibly where Lichaj is playing, but we've two left backs on the books, and also CNZ, Delph, maybe Williams who might offer enough as a wing back that side.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #1496 on: December 09, 2012, 01:48:35 PM »
Dean Cox of Leyton Orient. Classic fast speedy winger like Mickey Wright of old..we need someone to feed Benteke and Gabby..

Mickey Wright?  Do you mean Mick Wright our right back in the late sixties Brian?


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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #1497 on: December 09, 2012, 01:54:58 PM »
Seen a few like Charlie Austin in the past. Older forum members will recall Derek Hales. Looked like a pirate. Vicious finisher for Charlton in
the second div(now the Championship) moved to Derby in the top Div ans stopped scoring.

Same with Jermaine Beckford in more recent times.
Beckford's one season in the Premier League, he scored more than we seem to expect Gabby to manage because he runs around a lot.

Austin, when he plays in the Premier League could collapse. Or he could be a Darren Bent, Robbie Keane, Dion Dublin, Yakubu or Kevin Phillips. Sometime players do adapt. Sometimes they don't.

I'm not sure that most of us have seen enough of him to judge one way or the other.

I dont expect Agbonlahor to score at all but thats just my opinion.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #1498 on: December 09, 2012, 02:23:59 PM »
No to Trotter and Austin and haven't got a clue about the other bloke.
Trotter and Austin?
Dross.
We need some experience and quality.

I do hope Austin goes somewhere and is a brilliant you know. Just to bring this back up. By this assessment, most of the players we signed in the summer were not worth signing. Yeah a couple of older heads would be useful of course, but only if they are better than what we have and will improve the team. Choice between a younger player who you believe will have the ability to become very good and an older player of similar standard with little room for improvement for a bigger wage and cost and I would go for the younger player. We have signed "experienced" players for a long time, and lets face it, Dunne, Warnock, Collins, Hutton, Sidwell, Reo Coker, Heskey etc have not exactly been roaring successes. Experience is needed, but at the right price, and have to justify their place in the side.

I'm well aware of the value (and cost cutting side) of bringing younger players in, but there is a distinct danger of overdoing it.
We need an experienced quality midfielder to help out Westwood, an older head in the forward line and defence wouldn't hurt either.
Fingers crossed that the Sleeping Yank will provide the necessary for Lambert.

Spot on Fletch, we've gone from one extreme to the other.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #1499 on: December 09, 2012, 02:55:25 PM »
No to Trotter and Austin and haven't got a clue about the other bloke.
Trotter and Austin?
Dross.
We need some experience and quality.

I do hope Austin goes somewhere and is a brilliant you know. Just to bring this back up. By this assessment, most of the players we signed in the summer were not worth signing. Yeah a couple of older heads would be useful of course, but only if they are better than what we have and will improve the team. Choice between a younger player who you believe will have the ability to become very good and an older player of similar standard with little room for improvement for a bigger wage and cost and I would go for the younger player. We have signed "experienced" players for a long time, and lets face it, Dunne, Warnock, Collins, Hutton, Sidwell, Reo Coker, Heskey etc have not exactly been roaring successes. Experience is needed, but at the right price, and have to justify their place in the side.

I'm well aware of the value (and cost cutting side) of bringing younger players in, but there is a distinct danger of overdoing it.
We need an experienced quality midfielder to help out Westwood, an older head in the forward line and defence wouldn't hurt either.
Fingers crossed that the Sleeping Yank will provide the necessary for Lambert.

Evidence of him currently sleeping? Far too easy a throw away line, considering his private jet was pinging about Europe in the summer, bringing in a promising manager and 9 players? What does a non sleeping yank get up too?

The forward line I am not concerned with an older head at all to be honest. Gabby is an older head, as is Bent, and Ireland, and Holman. None are pulling up trees. A 21 year old forward that is as talented as Benteke would do me any day of the week.


In midfield, I would love an older head, Petrov esque, but Westwood and Bannan are doing very well. At the back Vlaar is an older head, Guzan is 28 so not really a youngster too. Clark and Lowton have played a fair amount of games in their careers too. And there is Dunne to come back possibly. For me, yes get experience if we can in a couple of positions, but not for the sake of it if not better than what we have.

 


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