Quote from: Toronto Villa on June 22, 2015, 06:21:20 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on June 22, 2015, 06:10:19 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on June 22, 2015, 05:58:54 PMHe still could have stayed at the club. He didn't have to leave. Did the manager force him out and tell him he had no future because of his style? If he did I stand corrected. And if he looked an England regular why did he end up at Bolton valued at around £5m and not a club of greater significance? Because future England regulars costing £5m don't come around every day. You'd think they'd be lined up around Villa Park to sign him.I can remember us selling two England internationals to Middlesbrough; there wasn't much of a queue for either of them. You can attempt to re-write history as much as you like but the fact is that Cahill looked every inch a top quality player of the future when he was here and just about everyone except Martin O'Neill thought so. I'm not re-writing anything Dave. I asked a question as to why more clubs didn't see what apparently everyone except MON did? And I'm not defending MON because none of us want to see our top prospects leave.I have absolutely no idea, but I do know that virtually everyone on here thought he was mistaken, and this was at the height of his popularity.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on June 22, 2015, 06:10:19 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on June 22, 2015, 05:58:54 PMHe still could have stayed at the club. He didn't have to leave. Did the manager force him out and tell him he had no future because of his style? If he did I stand corrected. And if he looked an England regular why did he end up at Bolton valued at around £5m and not a club of greater significance? Because future England regulars costing £5m don't come around every day. You'd think they'd be lined up around Villa Park to sign him.I can remember us selling two England internationals to Middlesbrough; there wasn't much of a queue for either of them. You can attempt to re-write history as much as you like but the fact is that Cahill looked every inch a top quality player of the future when he was here and just about everyone except Martin O'Neill thought so. I'm not re-writing anything Dave. I asked a question as to why more clubs didn't see what apparently everyone except MON did? And I'm not defending MON because none of us want to see our top prospects leave.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on June 22, 2015, 05:58:54 PMHe still could have stayed at the club. He didn't have to leave. Did the manager force him out and tell him he had no future because of his style? If he did I stand corrected. And if he looked an England regular why did he end up at Bolton valued at around £5m and not a club of greater significance? Because future England regulars costing £5m don't come around every day. You'd think they'd be lined up around Villa Park to sign him.I can remember us selling two England internationals to Middlesbrough; there wasn't much of a queue for either of them. You can attempt to re-write history as much as you like but the fact is that Cahill looked every inch a top quality player of the future when he was here and just about everyone except Martin O'Neill thought so.
He still could have stayed at the club. He didn't have to leave. Did the manager force him out and tell him he had no future because of his style? If he did I stand corrected. And if he looked an England regular why did he end up at Bolton valued at around £5m and not a club of greater significance? Because future England regulars costing £5m don't come around every day. You'd think they'd be lined up around Villa Park to sign him.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on June 22, 2015, 06:26:58 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on June 22, 2015, 06:21:20 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on June 22, 2015, 06:10:19 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on June 22, 2015, 05:58:54 PMHe still could have stayed at the club. He didn't have to leave. Did the manager force him out and tell him he had no future because of his style? If he did I stand corrected. And if he looked an England regular why did he end up at Bolton valued at around £5m and not a club of greater significance? Because future England regulars costing £5m don't come around every day. You'd think they'd be lined up around Villa Park to sign him.I can remember us selling two England internationals to Middlesbrough; there wasn't much of a queue for either of them. You can attempt to re-write history as much as you like but the fact is that Cahill looked every inch a top quality player of the future when he was here and just about everyone except Martin O'Neill thought so. I'm not re-writing anything Dave. I asked a question as to why more clubs didn't see what apparently everyone except MON did? And I'm not defending MON because none of us want to see our top prospects leave.I have absolutely no idea, but I do know that virtually everyone on here thought he was mistaken, and this was at the height of his popularity.Let's not forget that to accommodate O'Neill's super new central defenders of Curtis Davies and Zat Knight, we also had to shunt Olof Mellberg out to right back.
Quote from: Risso on June 23, 2015, 12:14:49 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on June 22, 2015, 06:26:58 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on June 22, 2015, 06:21:20 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on June 22, 2015, 06:10:19 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on June 22, 2015, 05:58:54 PMHe still could have stayed at the club. He didn't have to leave. Did the manager force him out and tell him he had no future because of his style? If he did I stand corrected. And if he looked an England regular why did he end up at Bolton valued at around £5m and not a club of greater significance? Because future England regulars costing £5m don't come around every day. You'd think they'd be lined up around Villa Park to sign him.I can remember us selling two England internationals to Middlesbrough; there wasn't much of a queue for either of them. You can attempt to re-write history as much as you like but the fact is that Cahill looked every inch a top quality player of the future when he was here and just about everyone except Martin O'Neill thought so. I'm not re-writing anything Dave. I asked a question as to why more clubs didn't see what apparently everyone except MON did? And I'm not defending MON because none of us want to see our top prospects leave.I have absolutely no idea, but I do know that virtually everyone on here thought he was mistaken, and this was at the height of his popularity.Let's not forget that to accommodate O'Neill's super new central defenders of Curtis Davies and Zat Knight, we also had to shunt Olof Mellberg out to right back.MON had a weird obsession about right backs. His 75 minute subs almost always involved fiddling around with right back.Didn't Reo-Coker play there a few times, even? Actually, I think I may have imagined that.
Letting Cahill go was a mistake and pretty sure it was obvious at the time with O'Neill oddly and stubbornly preferring Knight.