Matthew Lowton

[Matt Collins]

Yes and that he's a defender. What were mark delaney's good moments?

If he could have defended with just reasonable quality id have kept him. He's very good on the ball and an excellent t crosser. He was incredible against Sunderland in the 6-1. Best full back performance I've ever seen from a villa player.

But he was beaten so easily by a winger its untrue.

[saunders_heroes]

I'm glad we're finally getting rid of these type of players and the fact that they're going to or linked with championship clubs tells you everything about the standard of player we've been signing for the last five years and why we've struggled so much at the foot of the table. Lowton is an awful defender who is out of his depth in the Premier League.

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Delaney nailed a 30 yard screamer at Watford in a 1-0 win.

And he could defend.

[saunders_heroes]

Delaney was a cracking player. Infinitely better than any of the rubbish we've had at full back over the last 5 or so years.

[andyh]

I'm glad we're finally getting rid of these type of players and the fact that they're going to or linked with championship clubs tells you everything about the standard of player we've been signing for the last five years and why we've struggled so much at the foot of the table. Lowton is an awful defender who is out of his depth in the Premier League.

I think this is a great point, and well made.
Totally agree.

[Risso]

Good luck to him. The fact that we can so easily remember his few good moments tells you all you need to know about his general lack of quality and consistency.

I disagree - I think it says more that his good moments have been astonishingly good.

The Stoke goal was unquestionably the best moment of Lambert's first season and from the thread a few weeks ago the West Brom penalty that he won (although clearly less spectacular on his part) seemed to win the vote for the best moment of the season just gone.

Somebody like say, Luke Young was a far more consistent right-back but I think people would struggle to come up with a list of specific great moments in his Villa career like you can with Lowton.

I'd have taken 3 years of being able to play as a competent right back over a goal against Stoke, however brilliant it was.

[Dante Lavelli]

The annoying thing with both Weimann and Lowton is we have not played the system very well, we are selling both when they're at the bottom of their possible transfer value.  Had we sold at the right time we would have got maybe 5m for each which could have been reinvested.

Current examples of this are Westwood and Bacuna.  Right now they'd be considered premier league quality and might fetch 4-5m each, but if we sign replacements this summer and they spend a season in the reserves then their value will also fall down to 1m-ish.  I appreciate that none of the sums are big money, but if the club wanted to live buy the 'buy low, sell high', strategy for growing the club then they got the second bit very wrong.

[Dave]

Good luck to him. The fact that we can so easily remember his few good moments tells you all you need to know about his general lack of quality and consistency.

I disagree - I think it says more that his good moments have been astonishingly good.

The Stoke goal was unquestionably the best moment of Lambert's first season and from the thread a few weeks ago the West Brom penalty that he won (although clearly less spectacular on his part) seemed to win the vote for the best moment of the season just gone.

Somebody like say, Luke Young was a far more consistent right-back but I think people would struggle to come up with a list of specific great moments in his Villa career like you can with Lowton.

I'd have taken 3 years of being able to play as a competent right back over a goal against Stoke, however brilliant it was.

I entirely agree.

My point is that listing specific moments from a defender's career isn't the way to establish if they were any good or not. Wilfred Bouma's Villa career wasn't chock full of hundreds of great individual moments, that doesn't mean that he wasn't a good defender.

[Toronto Villa]

Good luck to him. The fact that we can so easily remember his few good moments tells you all you need to know about his general lack of quality and consistency.

I disagree - I think it says more that his good moments have been astonishingly good.

The Stoke goal was unquestionably the best moment of Lambert's first season and from the thread a few weeks ago the West Brom penalty that he won (although clearly less spectacular on his part) seemed to win the vote for the best moment of the season just gone.

Somebody like say, Luke Young was a far more consistent right-back but I think people would struggle to come up with a list of specific great moments in his Villa career like you can with Lowton.

I wonder how Gary Cahill would be remembered as a Villa player without "that goal"?

[Toronto Villa]

Good luck to him. The fact that we can so easily remember his few good moments tells you all you need to know about his general lack of quality and consistency.

I disagree - I think it says more that his good moments have been astonishingly good.

The Stoke goal was unquestionably the best moment of Lambert's first season and from the thread a few weeks ago the West Brom penalty that he won (although clearly less spectacular on his part) seemed to win the vote for the best moment of the season just gone.

Somebody like say, Luke Young was a far more consistent right-back but I think people would struggle to come up with a list of specific great moments in his Villa career like you can with Lowton.

I'd have taken 3 years of being able to play as a competent right back over a goal against Stoke, however brilliant it was.

I entirely agree.

My point is that listing specific moments from a defender's career isn't the way to establish if they were any good or not. Wilfred Bouma's Villa career wasn't chock full of hundreds of great individual moments, that doesn't mean that he wasn't a good defender.

I cannot believe Dave you have dismissed Bouma's screamer vs Newcastle so mercilessly.

[Risso]

Good luck to him. The fact that we can so easily remember his few good moments tells you all you need to know about his general lack of quality and consistency.

I disagree - I think it says more that his good moments have been astonishingly good.

The Stoke goal was unquestionably the best moment of Lambert's first season and from the thread a few weeks ago the West Brom penalty that he won (although clearly less spectacular on his part) seemed to win the vote for the best moment of the season just gone.

Somebody like say, Luke Young was a far more consistent right-back but I think people would struggle to come up with a list of specific great moments in his Villa career like you can with Lowton.

I wonder how Gary Cahill would be remembered as a Villa player without "that goal"?

I don't know about anyone else, but for me a highly promising youngster who was clearly better than Zat Knight and Curtis Davies.

[placeforparks]

The annoying thing with both Weimann and Lowton is we have not played the system very well, we are selling both when they're at the bottom of their possible transfer value.  Had we sold at the right time we would have got maybe 5m for each which could have been reinvested.

the club hasn't been run well, it has pissed money left, right and centre. hiring and firing managers. extending lambert's contract and sacking him weeks later. gates are down. season ticket sales are down. losing some hope value from lowton and weimann is the least of its worries.

[SoccerHQ]

Until reading this thread, I actually thought it was Weimann who got fouled for the Albion last minute penalty so you learn something new.

[Mister E]

I wonder how Gary Cahill would be remembered as a Villa player without "that goal"?

I don't know about anyone else, but for me a highly promising youngster who was clearly better than Zat Knight and Curtis Davies.

Totally with you on that. It still narks me that MON offloaded such an obviously-competent CB.

[richard moore]

I'm glad we're finally getting rid of these type of players and the fact that they're going to or linked with championship clubs tells you everything about the standard of player we've been signing for the last five years and why we've struggled so much at the foot of the table. Lowton is an awful defender who is out of his depth in the Premier League.

Agree totally!