Guzan

[Somniloquism]

Carson did very, very well for us right up until that Croatia nightmare.

Yep, although luckily he have the Croation nightmare did otherwise MON would have spent £10mil on him. (We were also lucky that Gordon went to Sunderland first that same season.)

[eastie]

No. He isn't good enough to be a first choice. He is a handy back up keeper who's good at penalties, but I don't see him being number 1 long term so I wouldn't persevere with him in the medium term. I think Given deserves a chance to rediscover some form.

So Guzan isn't good enough but lets get back a keeper struggling with injuries and who actually threw a goal into the net against Everton and who was pretty bad in the Euros as well.

TBH I don't think any other teams main keeper has covered themselves with glory so far this season either so Guzan has been one of the best so far in the league.

, He was very good against Newcastle and Swansea but let's not get carried away, he needs to do it week in week out over a long period before we can judge him.

Given had a stinker against everton but saved us on countless occasions last season, too soon to write him off in my view, he will return knowing he has to be on his game and I think will prove himself .

[Clampy]

I think he'll leave Guzan in. He played in the last round and besides chopping and changing keepers won't help continuity.

[Steve R]

This is scapegoating gone mad. Guzan has looked every inch a good Premier League goalkeeper so far this season. I don't see how he was at fault for what happened on Saturday.

Maybe the stream I wasn't watching was even dodgier than I thought.

Of all the things that may need to change for the league cup game, Guzan isn't one of them.

To my mind he wasn't at fault on Saturday really and I was there. The midfield was the major problem on Saturday and it lead to the collapse of the defence.

That was the impression I got.

[N'ZMAV]

Guzan will stay in. I don't think Lambert will chop and change keepers.
Also, we're probably about the 15th best team in the Premier League, people expecting world class performances week in week out need a reality check.

[SoccerHQ]

Carson was the worst keeper we have had since.....Jesus, I don't know who.

What about that butter fingers from Crystal Palace?

The pj wearing one on loan? Didn't he drop a huge clanger against man u?

Kiraly was fine in the other games, he kept a clean sheet against Chelsea the game before the cup tie.

[SoccerHQ]

Carson did very, very well for us right up until that Croatia nightmare.

Yep, although luckily he have the Croation nightmare did otherwise MON would have spent £10mil on him. (We were also lucky that Gordon went to Sunderland first that same season.)

I remember that, Gordon looked great at the time but didn't impress me hugely at Sunderland and he seems to have become permanently injured.

The Scottish Kirkland.

[Shrek]

Guzan is the best goal keeper at the club.

[danlanza]

Guzan is the best goal keeper at the club.

Not only that, he is one of the best in the Prem, no doubt.

[hawkeye]

In terms of Goalkeeping prowess, managing the back line coming for crosses, commanding the box its Guzan.

In terms of the ability to stop the almost certain goal its Given

[PeterWithesShin]

In terms of Goalkeeping prowess, managing the back line coming for crosses, commanding the box its Guzan.

In terms of the ability to stop the almost certain goal its Given

I don't think Given would have saved that Dyer (I think it was) shot against Swansea. We'd have been 1 down and who knows what would have happened after that.

[eastie]

Guzan is the best goal keeper at the club.

Not only that, he is one of the best in the Prem, no doubt.

How many prem games has he ever played ? Far too early to say he's one of the best in the premiership!

Let's wait until the end of the season at least.

[Somniloquism]

In terms of Goalkeeping prowess, managing the back line coming for crosses, commanding the box its Guzan.

In terms of the ability to stop the almost certain goal its Given

I don't think Given would have saved that Dyer (I think it was) shot against Swansea. We'd have been 1 down and who knows what would have happened after that.

Plus the Cabaye freekick right at the end of the Newcastle match.

[eastie]

Really surprised by the amount who seem to be writing off shay given , when he gets his chance and I believe he will get a chance I expect him to reclaim his place and perform to a high standard.

Being dropped will have hurt him and he will be out to prove a few people wrong, we have 2 good keepers at this club.

Would given have saved the cabaye shot - who knows, but I certainly think he could have saved the 1st saints goal at the weekend. Given dropped a clanger against Everton but had he not performed heroics against west brom and spurs we could have gone down- let Guzan do it year in and year out before acclaiming him as one of the best in the prem.

I have faith in whichever of the two keep the shirt.

[Clampy]

I don't think people are writing off Given as such. I think we can all agree that some of his saves helped keep us up last year but there was a bit of concern over his perfomances in the Euro's and his mistake in the Everton game obviously convinced Lambert to give Guzan a go which was fair enough. I'm happy for Guzan to keep his place in the side as long as he continues his good form.