Guzan

[ez]

It was strange that Carson played in so many games.

[gervilla]

Less than average.
Guzan is a far superior keeper.
Carson was the worst keeper we have had since.....Jesus, I don't know who.

[john e]

in all my time watching football i have never seen a player drop so far in confidence after one bad game like Carson

before his England match i was quite impressed with him, and wouldnt have minded signing him,
he came back from that England game absolutley shot, he even looked different, he was just incapable of doing the basic things, it was incredible. obviously there was a deep flaw there somewhere so it might have reared its head at some other time even if he had not played the fatefull game,

 but that one game finished as a top class keeper, he's made a career but not at the hights predicted

[Dave]

Carson was the worst keeper we have had since.....Jesus, I don't know who.

£2m that season-loan apparently cost us. Why we didn't just throw that money at Blackburn for Friedel a season earlier I have no idea.

[villan from luton]

Have to say was pist, but goggle eyes thought he should have done better for first goal.

As for Man City game, would give Given a go but on the understanding Guzan at the minute is the man to dislodge.

[eastie]

I expect given to play at man city , being dropped may have a positive effect on him and if he has an absolute blinder then lambert will have a tough decision regarding the Albion game.

As with other positions the man in possession will have to be on his game or lose the shirt- healthy competition for places keeps everyone on their toes .

[Boz]

No. He isn't good enough to be a first choice. He is a handy back up keeper who's good at penalties, but I don't see him being number 1 long term so I wouldn't persevere with him in the medium term. I think Given deserves a chance to rediscover some form.

Short term thinking bringing Given back unless it's just for cup games. IMO, we need to persevere with Guzan until January and if he's not proved to be Premiership standard look for a good quality replacement, not another at the end of his career.

[Steve R]

This is scapegoating gone mad. Guzan has looked every inch a good Premier League goalkeeper so far this season. I don't see how he was at fault for what happened on Saturday.

Maybe the stream I wasn't watching was even dodgier than I thought.

Of all the things that may need to change for the league cup game, Guzan isn't one of them.

[eastie]

No. He isn't good enough to be a first choice. He is a handy back up keeper who's good at penalties, but I don't see him being number 1 long term so I wouldn't persevere with him in the medium term. I think Given deserves a chance to rediscover some form.

Short term thinking bringing Given back unless it's just for cup games. IMO, we need to persevere with Guzan until January and if he's not proved to be Premiership standard look for a good quality replacement, not another at the end of his career.

There should be no time limit involved, if he is playing on form keeps the shirt and if he has a bad spell he loses his place .
Reputations count for nothing with Paul lambert and that's the way it should be.

I personally think given will probably perform extremely well when he gets a chance as he knows if he doesn't he will be out- its up to brad to deny him that chance.

[PaulWinch again]

This is scapegoating gone mad. Guzan has looked every inch a good Premier League goalkeeper so far this season. I don't see how he was at fault for what happened on Saturday.

Maybe the stream I wasn't watching was even dodgier than I thought.

Of all the things that may need to change for the league cup game, Guzan isn't one of them.

To my mind he wasn't at fault on Saturday really and I was there. The midfield was the major problem on Saturday and it lead to the collapse of the defence.

[eastie]

This is scapegoating gone mad. Guzan has looked every inch a good Premier League goalkeeper so far this season. I don't see how he was at fault for what happened on Saturday.

Maybe the stream I wasn't watching was even dodgier than I thought.

Of all the things that may need to change for the league cup game, Guzan isn't one of them.

To my mind he wasn't at fault on Saturday really and I was there. The midfield was the major problem on Saturday and it lead to the collapse of the defence.

Midfield were too deep but defence were very sloppy too and Guzan could have done better with the 1st goal, penalty also was needless.

[Pete3206]

Carson was the worst keeper we have had since.....Jesus, I don't know who.

What about that butter fingers from Crystal Palace?

[pauliewalnuts]

Carson did very, very well for us right up until that Croatia nightmare.

[eastie]

Carson was the worst keeper we have had since.....Jesus, I don't know who.

What about that butter fingers from Crystal Palace?

The pj wearing one on loan? Didn't he drop a huge clanger against man u?

[Somniloquism]

No. He isn't good enough to be a first choice. He is a handy back up keeper who's good at penalties, but I don't see him being number 1 long term so I wouldn't persevere with him in the medium term. I think Given deserves a chance to rediscover some form.

So Guzan isn't good enough but lets get back a keeper struggling with injuries and who actually threw a goal into the net against Everton and who was pretty bad in the Euros as well.

TBH I don't think any other teams main keeper has covered themselves with glory so far this season either so Guzan has been one of the best so far in the league.