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Offline Concrete John

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Re: The summer signings
« Reply #60 on: September 01, 2012, 09:42:00 AM »
7/10.

During the MON years we were moaning about signing overpriced PL players and not finding the lower league/overseas cheap deals other clubs seemed to be able to find.  Well, that's what we've now done and suddenly we should be going for more PL experience?  Ever heard the phrase "Can't do right for doing wrong?"

In truth a balance is probably what's needed, but we already have a lot of PL experience in Bent, Gabby, Ireland, N'Zogbia, Given and Dunne.  Remember it's not just about the new signings!

The two losses had some panicing a bit, but PL stuck to his transfer philosophy and literally 'kept his head while all around lose theirs', which really impresses me about him.

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Re: The summer signings
« Reply #61 on: September 01, 2012, 09:42:23 AM »
I'm pretty happy with the signings to be honest.
Its all well and good splashing out 100M on players but at this moment in time would that have guaranteed us a top 6 finish probably not.

The thing we really need right now is patience for players and staff to gel. It will probably get worse before it gets better.

I trust Lambert and like his attitude so I'm behind his approach for buying for young and hungry players because Im fed up of over paid ungrateful knob heads that the premier league often attracts

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Re: The summer signings
« Reply #62 on: September 01, 2012, 09:45:00 AM »
Im quite surprised with the high numbers people are giving, we have not signed one proven Premier League footballer. Indeed most of the signings are people we have all never heard of.
I would dearly love to share your optimism but i just dont, hence my vote of 1. We NEEDED experience. In reality history proves that most of our youngsters (most of our team) wont make it.
If history is to be proved correct then we will be playing Championship football next year.
Lets hope we can rewrite the record books eh.

If we end up getting relegated then you are right however I do not see it that way.  In the current situation, the only experienced premiership players that we could have signed would be the ones that are proven to be not good enough.  After all they’re experienced and available, they’re unlikely to improve much.

Whereas we have signed players at a fraction of the cost and wages who are probably equally talented.  Crucially they’re all hungry and will bring a positive attitude to the whole club, hopefully changing the culture of the place a bit.  There's also the possibility that one or two of them will become quality PL players, the sort we could currently not sign.

And finally 20m has got us 6 or 7 players that will be challenging for a first team spot, bulking out the squad.  Comparable investment next season, after Henke has done his work, in two or three players could really push the team forward.

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Re: The summer signings
« Reply #63 on: September 01, 2012, 09:45:24 AM »
The lack of width in the first few games has been very noticable, I'd have also hoped a decent left back would have been high on the list of priorities, unless I've missed a signing?

I'd hoped for more experience coming in, I think its going to be a long old season scrapping at the bottom end of the table. Sorry.

« Last Edit: September 01, 2012, 09:49:44 AM by PeterWithe »

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Re: The summer signings
« Reply #64 on: September 01, 2012, 09:49:37 AM »
Never in my time supporting the villa have the fans been more important than they will be now. By doing this, I think Lambert has asked the fans to put complete and utter trust in him. Getting behind the young lads we have and the new ones coming in will allow them to believe in themselves and get back to winning ways. But, if the atmosphere we had last season rears its ugly head again I genuinely fear we could send our club down. The booing should stop here and now because we are going to lose a few more before things will get better, i think that is beyond question

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Re: The summer signings
« Reply #65 on: September 01, 2012, 09:54:40 AM »
The lack of width in the first few games has been very noticable, I'd have also hoped a decent left back would have been high on the list of priorities, unless I've missed a signing? I'd hoped for more experience coming in, I think its going to be a long old season scrapping at the bottom end of the table. Sorry.

Joe Bennett from Middlesborough.  U21 international and signed Wednesday I think it was.

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Re: The summer signings
« Reply #66 on: September 01, 2012, 09:57:01 AM »
Agree with Percy and Dave Cooper's comments..
Promising, hungry young players, but could have done with a bit more experience, still concerned about how we'll navigate this season.
Was the Norwich thing a one-off?

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Re: The summer signings
« Reply #67 on: September 01, 2012, 09:58:11 AM »
I'm happy with the feeling that Lambert had plansB ,C and D if his 1st target wasn't going to happen.
This is probably down to Karsa ,as he seems to "find" the players we're after.
The intriguing and surprising one yesterday was Dempsey, which showed us that Lerner has certainly backed PL in every way, and it also shows us that this is probably the 1st stage in the total rebuilding of our club from the ground up.
Yes it's a gamble we all realise that ,that is why we have a massive role in staying behind the team as they bed in , no booing from me (never have) only encouragement UTV!

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Re: The summer signings
« Reply #68 on: September 01, 2012, 09:58:34 AM »
Lambert has balls of steel.  His strategy is risky but, if we stay up, it will provide the ideal base to build from in the future.

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Re: The summer signings
« Reply #69 on: September 01, 2012, 10:00:40 AM »
7/10.

During the MON years we were moaning about signing overpriced PL players and not finding the lower league/overseas cheap deals other clubs seemed to be able to find.  Well, that's what we've now done and suddenly we should be going for more PL experience?  Ever heard the phrase "Can't do right for doing wrong?"

In truth a balance is probably what's needed, but we already have a lot of PL experience in Bent, Gabby, Ireland, N'Zogbia, Given and Dunne.  Remember it's not just about the new signings!

The two losses had some panicing a bit, but PL stuck to his transfer philosophy and literally 'kept his head while all around lose theirs', which really impresses me about him.

Have a look at this forum at the opinions of the players you've mentioned there as our experienced players.With the exception of Bent they've all been getting plenty of criticism.A couple of experienced players added to the unproven lads would have made me feel more confident as you say, it's about the balance.At the moment we're unbalanced. Today's back four highlights that,

Lowton   Vlaar  Baker  Bennett

Barely ten Premiership appearances between them and they're up against Cisse and Ba today.That is a concern for me and whilst I agree players need time to settle, we need to get them settled pretty sharpish or we'll be playing catch up.

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Re: The summer signings
« Reply #70 on: September 01, 2012, 10:04:36 AM »
7/10.

During the MON years we were moaning about signing overpriced PL players and not finding the lower league/overseas cheap deals other clubs seemed to be able to find.  Well, that's what we've now done and suddenly we should be going for more PL experience?  Ever heard the phrase "Can't do right for doing wrong?"

In truth a balance is probably what's needed, but we already have a lot of PL experience in Bent, Gabby, Ireland, N'Zogbia, Given and Dunne.  Remember it's not just about the new signings!

The two losses had some panicing a bit, but PL stuck to his transfer philosophy and literally 'kept his head while all around lose theirs', which really impresses me about him.

Have a look at this forum at the opinions of the players you've mentioned there as our experienced players.With the exception of Bent they've all been getting plenty of criticism.A couple of experienced players added to the unproven lads would have made me feel more confident as you say, it's about the balance.At the moment we're unbalanced. Today's back four highlights that,

Lowton   Vlaar  Baker  Bennett

Barely ten Premiership appearances between them and they're up against Cisse and Ba today.That is a concern for me and whilst I agree players need time to settle, we need to get them settled pretty sharpish or we'll be playing catch up.

You're right.  Best stick Hutton and Warnock back in to be safe!

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Re: The summer signings
« Reply #71 on: September 01, 2012, 10:07:37 AM »
7/10.

During the MON years we were moaning about signing overpriced PL players and not finding the lower league/overseas cheap deals other clubs seemed to be able to find.  Well, that's what we've now done and suddenly we should be going for more PL experience?  Ever heard the phrase "Can't do right for doing wrong?"

In truth a balance is probably what's needed, but we already have a lot of PL experience in Bent, Gabby, Ireland, N'Zogbia, Given and Dunne.  Remember it's not just about the new signings!

The two losses had some panicing a bit, but PL stuck to his transfer philosophy and literally 'kept his head while all around lose theirs', which really impresses me about him.

Have a look at this forum at the opinions of the players you've mentioned there as our experienced players.With the exception of Bent they've all been getting plenty of criticism.A couple of experienced players added to the unproven lads would have made me feel more confident as you say, it's about the balance.At the moment we're unbalanced. Today's back four highlights that,

Lowton   Vlaar  Baker  Bennett

Barely ten Premiership appearances between them and they're up against Cisse and Ba today.That is a concern for me and whilst I agree players need time to settle, we need to get them settled pretty sharpish or we'll be playing catch up.

You're right.  Best stick Hutton and Warnock back in to be safe!

Glad you agree ???

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Re: The summer signings
« Reply #72 on: September 01, 2012, 10:07:47 AM »
7/10.

During the MON years we were moaning about signing overpriced PL players and not finding the lower league/overseas cheap deals other clubs seemed to be able to find.  Well, that's what we've now done and suddenly we should be going for more PL experience?  Ever heard the phrase "Can't do right for doing wrong?"

In truth a balance is probably what's needed, but we already have a lot of PL experience in Bent, Gabby, Ireland, N'Zogbia, Given and Dunne.  Remember it's not just about the new signings!

The two losses had some panicing a bit, but PL stuck to his transfer philosophy and literally 'kept his head while all around lose theirs', which really impresses me about him.

Very nice summary, totally agree. Also agree with those saying it looks like a 7/10 now, but i could become an 8-10/10 window if these players develop well.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2012, 10:11:43 AM by Montbert »

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Re: The summer signings
« Reply #73 on: September 01, 2012, 10:10:54 AM »
7/10.

During the MON years we were moaning about signing overpriced PL players and not finding the lower league/overseas cheap deals other clubs seemed to be able to find.  Well, that's what we've now done and suddenly we should be going for more PL experience?  Ever heard the phrase "Can't do right for doing wrong?"

In truth a balance is probably what's needed, but we already have a lot of PL experience in Bent, Gabby, Ireland, N'Zogbia, Given and Dunne.  Remember it's not just about the new signings!

The two losses had some panicing a bit, but PL stuck to his transfer philosophy and literally 'kept his head while all around lose theirs', which really impresses me about him.

Have a look at this forum at the opinions of the players you've mentioned there as our experienced players.With the exception of Bent they've all been getting plenty of criticism.A couple of experienced players added to the unproven lads would have made me feel more confident as you say, it's about the balance.At the moment we're unbalanced. Today's back four highlights that,

Lowton   Vlaar  Baker  Bennett

Barely ten Premiership appearances between them and they're up against Cisse and Ba today.That is a concern for me and whilst I agree players need time to settle, we need to get them settled pretty sharpish or we'll be playing catch up.

Tomorrow.

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Re: The summer signings
« Reply #74 on: September 01, 2012, 10:16:41 AM »
Good work chaps.  We have covered all the bases, maybe excepting a winger but if PL doesn't want to play them then furry muff.  GK, LB, RB, CB, CMx2, STx2 (one in the reserves but bought for a pittance) and all on an outlay of £25m - James Collins.  Delfouneso on a season long loan to Rat Boy in the Championship, sink or swim time sunshine.

My major concern is the bad smell coming from the reserves.  Having shoved Hutton and Warnock out of the frame so completely it would have been good to have found them at least temporary accomodation elsewhere.  Will any of our reserve team have functioning legs by the time those 2 have finished with them??

I don't believe all of our signings will stick, at least not initially, but we now have options which we were sadly lacking in the first 2 weeks, our bench looked piss poor against Wet Spam and the Toffees.  We need Gabby, Dunne (the experienced not fat version) Albi and Carruthers fit and we have a squad folks. 

Fine work indeed.

 


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