More redundancies at club

[Whiney MacWhineface]

What's the source for those figures?

A quick Google comes up with this lot:

Here is the Premier League table alternate top 10, by net spend, for figures over the past five seasons, from 2007/08 to 2011/12.

Manchester City: £430.77 million
Chelsea: £159.7 million
Liverpool: £99.25 million
Sunderland: £57.6 million
Tottenham Hotspur: £49.4 million
Manchester United: £47.25 million
Swansea City: £8.25 million
Everton: £5 million
Newcastle United: -£30.25 million
Arsenal: -£31.3 million

Source: From here

Via: Here

No idea of the accuracy, but a different story.

[Chipsticks]

It aired on Sky Sports News recently, I'm just assuming what they're saying is correct.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Looking at the bottom of that Skysports screenshot, they're using the same source as you, Nick

[Whiney MacWhineface]

And digging deeper into transferleague.co.uk I can see the same figures Chipstick published! They still look a bit odd though.

I give up!

[dave.woodhall]

It's the Stoke one that surprises me the most. Where the hell have they managed to spend 60 million?

But back on topic, maybe if we didn't spend so much money, and then 40k a week for the likes of Habib Beye and Wayne Routledge to sit on the bench then perhaps those who are now redundant and provided much more for the club might still have a job.

It's nothing to do with football. Non-matchday income has fallen and that's where the losses are.

[pauliewalnuts]

There are some redundancies, mostly voluntary and on the marketing side, mainly due to the downturn in non-matchday corporate business. I know the public sector use Villa Park a lot and they've obviously been  by cuts.

Christ, what possible reason could the public sector have to use expensive corporate hospitality facilities?

My Mrs works in the public sector and often has to attend things with hundreds of attendees.

I'd imagine somewhere like Villa Park might be appealing because it is right off the motorway network in the middle of the country. I'd also imagine they have a range of packages for conferences and meetings, too, so it's really no big surprise they get used for stuff like that.

[pauliewalnuts]

Why would the public sector need to villa park when council own Icc , talk about pissing money away!!

Apart from the fact they don't own the ICC, what do you think the costs are in using a venue like Villa Park versus the ICC? VP would be miles cheaper.

[PeterWithesShin]

As far as I know VP prices for functions etc are pretty competitive. A friend had an anniversary bash there and another looked into it as a wedding reception venue and  both said they offered good rooms at decent prices.

[bertlambshank]

I work in the industry and people will pay what they want.

[Vancouver]

Ditto. With a downturn in our industry we just held a promotional party with free booze and food. It was at a fancy restaurant bar too. We needed to make a splash with the key people and frankly a back-of-the-pub job wont attract the folks that we targeted.

And we had to let a few folks go as well. The sales and marketing dept called it 'lose leader'.

It was a great party...

[danlanza]

Maybe it is because our hospitality is second to non. Maybe it is because we are Aston Villa.?

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Why would the public sector need to villa park when council own Icc , talk about pissing money away!!

Apart from the fact they don't own the ICC, what do you think the costs are in using a venue like Villa Park versus the ICC? VP would be miles cheaper.

I'm betting that Villa Park laid on Caviar and Peacocks tongues in aspic for all those public sector bastards.
Obviously the £200k per annum wages they receive isn't enough for them, not to mention that most of them only do a 20 hour week at most.

[Stu]

Why would the public sector need to villa park when council own Icc , talk about pissing money away!!

Apart from the fact they don't own the ICC, what do you think the costs are in using a venue like Villa Park versus the ICC? VP would be miles cheaper.

I'm betting that Villa Park laid on Caviar and Peacocks tongues in aspic for all those public sector bastards.
Obviously the £200k per annum wages they receive isn't enough for them, not to mention that most of them only do a 20 hour week at most.

And have a pension made from frozen unicorn tears or something.

[AlwaysAVFC]

Why would the public sector need to villa park when council own Icc , talk about pissing money away!!

Apart from the fact they don't own the ICC, what do you think the costs are in using a venue like Villa Park versus the ICC? VP would be miles cheaper.

Even if they did, the ICC would be run as an independent business and there would be no chance of facilities been given to areas of the public sector for free/cheap.

Having worked in a Birmingham hotel till the start of last year and I don't imagine things have changed too much but places are surviving on very fine margins. Meetings and conference facilities are so competitive some places are pretty much giving away the service which only ends up making it worse for everyone else as venues will be expected to match that rate, when often it is just not feasible. Staffing is at a bare mimimum, the amount of staff at my hotel when i started in 2007 was much greater than when I left, it wasn't redundencies but it just wasn't possible most of the time to replace people when they left.
We had conferences ranging in size for local education and NHS as well as the city council.

[dave.woodhall]

Why would the public sector need to villa park when council own Icc , talk about pissing money away!!

Apart from the fact they don't own the ICC, what do you think the costs are in using a venue like Villa Park versus the ICC? VP would be miles cheaper.

Even if they did, the ICC would be run as an independent business and there would be no chance of facilities been given to areas of the public sector for free/cheap.

Having worked in a Birmingham hotel till the start of last year and I don't imagine things have changed too much but places are surviving on very fine margins. Meetings and conference facilities are so competitive some places are pretty much giving away the service which only ends up making it worse for everyone else as venues will be expected to match that rate, when often it is just not feasible. Staffing is at a bare mimimum, the amount of staff at my hotel when i started in 2007 was much greater than when I left, it wasn't redundencies but it just wasn't possible most of the time to replace people when they left.
We had conferences ranging in size for local education and NHS as well as the city council.

I would guess as well that a hotel can run events as a loss-leader to get delegates to stay in their rooms/use the bar & restaurant whereas a football club doesn't have such facilities.