in response to californian villain of course they didn't tell me but PF would have to make a formal approach to Norwich and/or Wigan and both clubs - never slow at talking to the media - have flatly denied us making contact. As to the possibility of us making contact with AVB or the Rafa, I think that is unlikely, particularly in view of Liverpool's situation. The former would not, IMHO, join us, and the latter didn't want to last year, and seems to now fall outside the young dynamic prerequisite. We all know that when it comes to the Villa, trying to establish the facts is like trying to knit fog, the only definate news seems to be that RL and PF have spoken directly to one guy, OGS.