Who should we sell?

[hartman_1982]

GARDNER!

[Louzie0]

Without Dunne any squad would be sylphlike.*

I'd quite like to keep Charlie N'Zog.  I've kept faith with him.  A new manager might get his confidence back.
And get Makoun back!

*Actually just realised that there's a slight element here of pot, kettle!
But then again,I don't play for the Villa!

Felt like invading the pitch last time at VP, though - and not in a good way!

[PeterWithesShin]

Already covered here http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=47051.0  so merging threads.

[hawkeye]

Already covered here http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=47051.0  so merging threads.

Sorry and Thanks

[Concrete John]

Thought this might be worth a bump, given we now know who the new manager is?

You'd like to think everyone starts with a clean slate, but I'd say those that have underperformed last season and/or are in danger are as follows:-
Warnock
Hutton
Dunne
Collins
N'Zogbia
Gabby
Makoun
Delph

Lambert strikes me as a strict disciplinarian, so I expect him to chop one or two to show the rest of the squad who's boss.  As such, I think Dunne will go, but we'd be too in-experienced at CB if both went, so Collins to stay.  With Hutton and Warnock it will be based on what they show in training, but doubt both will be kept on fairly high wages with Lichaj emerging.  I think he'll be asked to get the best out of N'Zogbia as we can't afford to write off a £10m player after one season.  Gabby will only go if a big offer comes in.  Makoun is the biggest question mark as it depends on how Bertie wants to play as to whether we take what we can or give him another go.  For some reason I have a feeling Delph will come good undre the new manager.

I think the rest of our homegrown kids will all stay, with the possible exception of Delfouneso, should the right offer come in. 

[Porky]

New manager new team/squad. I am not too concerned who goes it is who we bring in that matters.

Lets see if Mr Lerner still believes in a "Bright Future."

[mr woo]

Would agree with keeping Collins if Dunne and Warnock go. Rumours suggest the three of them together caused a lot of unrest for Houllier and TSM. In isolation he may settle down and grow up a bit.

Maybe controversially, I'd also shift Ireland on while his stock is relatively high. It would save a shit load on wages that could be better used elsewhere and I have concerns on how he'll react with Lambert who strikes me as someone who will be a tad more demanding than his predecessor.

If we had the right offer for Gabby he can go. Would love to replace Hutton but who would be daft enough to take him.

Replacements if its not too off topic. Would like to see Robbie Keane come back on a 3 year deal, I feel he can do what Ireland does while actually looking bothered. The Croatian guy Petric (not Olic who we were linked with last year) is available on a free, he'd be my Heskey replacement. One other forward , maybe Rhodes or Ricky Lambert?  Lichaj is good enough at right back already. Quite like Jonas Olsson from the baggies at centre back, or Simon Kjaer who was supposedly the next big thing to come out of Denmark but has faltered a little in Italy.

Still struggling for that marauding midfielder though, isn't Macdonald Mariga available from Inter?

[OCD]

I don't think Dunne and Warnock were out after the end of season party where Collins, Delph and Herd got themselves into trouble. Lambert certainly won't tolerate that sort of thing. I know at Norwich Lambert had spies everywhere. Whenever one of his players was out, he knew about it.

I see Ireland taking on the Hoolahan role. In terms of selling players because of their wages, it could be Makoun that goes. Lambert might think he can get someone similar in without the inflated wages.

[Matt C]

Collins, Warnock, Hutton & unforunately Delfouneso would probably be on my list to go in the first instance. As we've already lost three and had a weak squad to begin with I'd not be in a rush to lose any more for now though.

[john2710]

Going - Collins, Warnock, Delfounseo & Makoun.
With the 'loss' of Heskey & Carlos, plus the loss of Petrov means we need a good 6-7 players coming in.

In short the spine of the team needs replacing.

Two central defenders, a commanding first choice to replace Collins
A first choice leftback.
Two first choice central midfield, one holding
A right side midfield to put Albrighton back as cover
A target man.

These changes would address most of our problem areas last season, of course if we sell Gabby or Bent to raise funds they will need to be replaced.

Listening to Paul Faulkner at the press conference he spoke about working smartly in the market. I think this infers that we won't be seeing any major, big money signings.

[N'ZMAV]

GOALKEEPERS
Shay Given - In
Brad Guzan - Gone

DEFENDERS
Alan Hutton - Out - Not good enough. Reckless in the tackle. Offers not a lot. Improved last season, but not enough to want to keep. We'll struggle to find a club willing to buy him.
Stephen Warnock - Out - Poor, no confidence. Played better in midfield at times last season. Would take £2mil.
Richard Dunne - Out - Past his best. Better without Collins. Can't keep both of them at the club.
James Collins - Out - Past his best. Better without Dunne. Can't keep both of them at the club.
Ciaran Clark - In. Needs to have a good run at Centre Back. Could be a massive star. I'm sure he's on Fergie's radar....
Carlos Cuellar - Gone
Enda Stevens - Not sure - Loan out?
Eric Lichaj - Out - Works hard and can be solid in the tackle. Not going to be a Prem star. Would take a couple of million, or keep him as a backup.
Nathan Baker - In - Looks decent. Needs more experience. Decent and cheap option to keep.
Derrick Williams - Not sure - Loan out?

MIDFIELDERS
Stephen Ireland - In - Needs to play a more attacking role. Huge wages and suspect temprement means we'd struggle to sell. Let's try and get him back to his best, he'd be a real asset then.
Jermaine Jenas - Gone.
Charles N'zogbia - In - Was used wrong by the wrong manager. Needs telling he's a world beater, and playing on the proper wing, then he might be the player he can be. Give him at least another season.
Marc Albrighton - Out - Time for a change.
Fabian Delph - Out - Too many injuries.
Stiliyan Petrov - In - Captain.
Barry Bannan - In - Totally unconvinced by Bannan. Needs to work harder and try and keep the ball. Too many failed Hollywood balls. 1 more season.
Chris Herd - In - Did well last season, will be a useful squadl player.
Daniel Johnson - In - Loan him out.
Gary Gardner - In - Get him in the team.

FORWARDS
Darren Bent - In
Gabriel Agbonlahor - Out - Past his best. Looked disinterested too often last season, and the one before.
Nathan Delfouneso - Out (not going to get the chances now Weimann has pushed on) - Agree
Emile Heskey - Gone
Andreas Weimann - In - Lively little goal machine.
Graham Burke - Loan him out.

[N'ZMAV]

Keep Makoun too.

[The Left Side]

Keep Makoun too.

Too right

[VinnieChase84]

Taken from: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/spieler/vertragsende/basics.html

Out of Contract end of this year:

Heskey - Marshall (didnt realise he was 37 should go) - Cuellar - Guzan

only 1 season left:

Warnock - Dunne - Collins - Lichaj

2 season left

Bent - Hutton - Gabby - Delph - Edna Stevens

Didn't bent sign a 5 year deal when he joined!?

[villadelph]

GOALKEEPERS
Shay Given - In
Brad Guzan - Gone

DEFENDERS
Alan Hutton - Out - Not good enough. Reckless in the tackle. Offers not a lot. Improved last season, but not enough to want to keep. We'll struggle to find a club willing to buy him.
Stephen Warnock - Out - Poor, no confidence. Played better in midfield at times last season. Would take £2mil.
Richard Dunne - Out - Past his best. Better without Collins. Can't keep both of them at the club.
James Collins - Out - Past his best. Better without Dunne. Can't keep both of them at the club.
Ciaran Clark - In. Needs to have a good run at Centre Back. Could be a massive star. I'm sure he's on Fergie's radar....
Carlos Cuellar - Gone
Enda Stevens - Not sure - Loan out?
Eric Lichaj - Out - Works hard and can be solid in the tackle. Not going to be a Prem star. Would take a couple of million, or keep him as a backup.
Nathan Baker - In - Looks decent. Needs more experience. Decent and cheap option to keep.
Derrick Williams - Not sure - Loan out?

MIDFIELDERS
Stephen Ireland - In - Needs to play a more attacking role. Huge wages and suspect temprement means we'd struggle to sell. Let's try and get him back to his best, he'd be a real asset then.
Jermaine Jenas - Gone.
Charles N'zogbia - In - Was used wrong by the wrong manager. Needs telling he's a world beater, and playing on the proper wing, then he might be the player he can be. Give him at least another season.
Marc Albrighton - Out - Time for a change.
Fabian Delph - Out - Too many injuries.
Stiliyan Petrov - In - Captain.
Barry Bannan - In - Totally unconvinced by Bannan. Needs to work harder and try and keep the ball. Too many failed Hollywood balls. 1 more season.
Chris Herd - In - Did well last season, will be a useful squadl player.
Daniel Johnson - In - Loan him out.
Gary Gardner - In - Get him in the team.

FORWARDS
Darren Bent - In
Gabriel Agbonlahor - Out - Past his best. Looked disinterested too often last season, and the one before.
Nathan Delfouneso - Out (not going to get the chances now Weimann has pushed on) - Agree
Emile Heskey - Gone
Andreas Weimann - In - Lively little goal machine.
Graham Burke - Loan him out.

I agree with everything except Lichaj and Albrighton. I would give Marc until Christmas to get his act together. He was all over the place last season and the epitome of inconsistency. Although, he did battle some nagging injuries at the end of the season. If he learns to steer a decent ball into the box and can start beating his man off the dribble again than he can stay. If its just more of the same.. bye Marc.

I think Lichaj is a pretty good player. He got paired up with some pretty brutal wingers in the latter stages of the McLeish era. I remember him handling Valencia, and making some impressive tackles in the last few games. He took an absolute pounding back there, we were on our back foot all season, and came out looking pretty decent. He's got a long throw which is going to become valuable with Holt coming in, and he's a very athletic kid. He gets another year in the squad for me.