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Online PaulWinch again

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Re: Who should we sell?
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2012, 09:06:45 PM »
I'd get rid of Collins, Dunne, Warnock on top of those who are leaving on frees. That would free up substantial wages as well.

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Re: Who should we sell?
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2012, 09:23:10 PM »
No one has put Bannan on the sell list, am I missing something with this kid, I think he looks well out of his depth
I don't think he'll make it, but I know his game hasn't been at all helped playing for McLeish. If we get a new manager who gets us passing the ball and at least actually attacking, we might see more for him.

Personally though I don't think he'll be here in a year, nor Albrighton. Neither has enough in their locker, and Bannan's just too small, without enough of the gumption and right attitude to make up for that. Hope he proves me wrong though.
As small as Billy Bremner. Never shirked a physical challenge and combined skill with scottish aggression. Bannans got skill and thats where the comparison ends.

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Re: Who should we sell?
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2012, 09:25:36 PM »
I don't think we should have a huge clearout. We won't get big money for most players and don't want to end up with a squad even more full of kids.

I think we may need to respond to the market, so I'd be listening to offers for Guzan, Hutton, Warnock, Collins, Dunne (but sell perhaps 2 of the outfield defenders) plus presumably Cuellar and Heskey to go.

I think there are big question marks about Delph, Bannan, Albrighton and the Fonz, but none of them would raise much cash so would also consider them for loans.


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Re: Who should we sell?
« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2012, 09:31:11 PM »
Hutton, Warnock, Collins, Dunne, Albrighton, Bannan, Fonz, to start with.

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Re: Who should we sell?
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2012, 09:33:00 PM »
The defence have to carry the can for me. The amount of goals we've conceded from set pieces this season is a disgrace.

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Re: Who should we sell?
« Reply #50 on: May 14, 2012, 09:44:05 PM »
I don't know about sell but if I were the incoming manager my first act would be to get Jean II Makoun back.   If one act encapsulated the lack of judgement of our ex manager it was letting a player who cost that much go without any kind of run to prove himself.

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Re: Who should we sell?
« Reply #51 on: May 14, 2012, 09:44:38 PM »
I don't know about sell but if I were the incoming manager my first act would be to get Jean II Makoun back.   If one act encapsulated the lack of judgement of our ex manager it was letting a player who cost that much go without any kind of run to prove himself.

Yes very good point.

Offline Aston Manor

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Re: Who should we sell?
« Reply #52 on: May 14, 2012, 09:45:18 PM »
Sell:

Hutton
Collins
Dunne
Bannan
Delfouneso
Bent

I know the last one is crazy but we need to start again. We do not create and unless a new manager is given roughly £50m to spend then there's no point having the final piece of the jigsaw if we've already lost 3 or 4 pieces around it.


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Re: Who should we sell?
« Reply #53 on: May 14, 2012, 09:47:10 PM »
I don't know about sell but if I were the incoming manager my first act would be to get Jean II Makoun back.   If one act encapsulated the lack of judgement of our ex manager it was letting a player who cost that much go without any kind of run to prove himself.

Not sure why such an average player will help us, though.

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Re: Who should we sell?
« Reply #54 on: May 14, 2012, 09:48:21 PM »
I don't know about sell but if I were the incoming manager my first act would be to get Jean II Makoun back.   If one act encapsulated the lack of judgement of our ex manager it was letting a player who cost that much go without any kind of run to prove himself.

Not sure why such an average player will help us, though.

Judged on a whole 7 games, in which one he was very good at Old Trafford. Luka Modric had a really poor first season in England, and he's probably reasonable.

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Re: Who should we sell?
« Reply #55 on: May 14, 2012, 10:02:51 PM »
We're losing Cuellar and Heskey plus maybe Guzan out of contract whilst Stan's biggest battle is to regain his health not match fitness so that's another four gone from an already wafer thin squad (no jokes about Dunne please)

On that basis I'm not sure why we would want to get rid of about another ten players unless we have replacements lined up who are guaranteed to improve the squad

I'd get rid of Delfouneso who doesn't look like he'll make it and listen to offers for Collins (if we get any) but would be prepared to at least let the rest of them show the new manager that they are much better than what we saw this season.

I honestly believe a team containing Bent, Agbonlahor, N'Zogbia, Ireland and Weimann has the potential to score goals and create chances under the right leadership

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Re: Who should we sell?
« Reply #56 on: May 14, 2012, 10:03:00 PM »
No one has put Bannan on the sell list, am I missing something with this kid, I think he looks well out of his depth

I think he's got the talent but looks like he has a chip on his shoulder also. He hasn't done much to write him off though.................yet !

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Re: Who should we sell?
« Reply #57 on: May 14, 2012, 10:03:23 PM »
I don't know about sell but if I were the incoming manager my first act would be to get Jean II Makoun back.   If one act encapsulated the lack of judgement of our ex manager it was letting a player who cost that much go without any kind of run to prove himself.

Not sure why such an average player will help us, though.

Judged on a whole 7 games, in which one he was very good at Old Trafford. Luka Modric had a really poor first season in England, and he's probably reasonable.

Funny I play football with a guy from Cameroon and yesterday after out match (Villa-esque performance) I was talking about what a depressing season it was. He said he liked Villa but couldn't believe we bought a rubbish player like Makoun!

All of the 'young' players (as in youth team graduates who aren't first teamers) should stay in my opinion. In fact I'm surprised anyone is willing to write them off and sell them - give them a chance to prove themselves under a new manager.

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Re: Who should we sell?
« Reply #58 on: May 14, 2012, 10:10:11 PM »
I think Makoun would be excellent alongside the right player, he needs someone with some serious legs alongside, like an Ian Taylor at his best or better still a Viera or Toure type. He's skillfull and creative but looked overwhelmed with the partners he had in the middle at the end of last season. I was disappointed he went, but did he settle in England?

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Re: Who should we sell?
« Reply #59 on: May 14, 2012, 10:19:14 PM »
GOALKEEPERS
Shay Given - In
Brad Guzan - Out - cheaper wages on a reserve than 25k

DEFENDERS
Alan Hutton - Out
Stephen Warnock - Out
Richard Dunne - In
James Collins - Out
Ciaran Clark - In
Carlos Cuellar - Out
Enda Stevens - In
Eric Lichaj - In
Nathan Baker - In
Derrick Williams - Untested yet

MIDFIELDERS
Stephen Ireland - In
Jermaine Jenas - Out
Charles N'zogbia - In
Marc Albrighton - In (one more season to see if he can up his game)
Fabian Delph - In
Stiliyan Petrov -
Barry Bannan - In
Chris Herd - In
Daniel Johnson - In
Gary Gardner - In

FORWARDS
Darren Bent - In
Gabriel Agbonlahor - In
Nathan Delfouneso - Out (not going to get the chances now Weimann has pushed on)
Emile Heskey - Out
Andreas Weimann - In
Graham Burke - Not yet had the chance to see what he can do.

That should free up some money for replacements to strengthen the gaps left.





I would keep Dunne for 1 more season, and have him as captain. Collins after his latest night club piss up should be bombed out, Hutton, Warnock, not good enough, need young, dynamic full backs, although Lichaz would be my first choice next season and give him his shot.

Coming in we need a couple of central midfield players, a centre half, a couple of full backs, and an exciting pacey winger.

 


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