Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur Post-Match Thread

[villa for life]

does that mean there are going to be loads of good candidates who don't have the backing of the "fans" and then Randy appointing "another" McLeish?
Let's get behind whoever Randy wants in the first place...

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Just think chaps. That was the last ever game that Heskey or McLeish will ever have for Villa at Villa Park.

It feels good. Real good.

Can they take N'Zogbia with them?

And Hutton. My biggest concern when he got injured was he'd broken his leg and we'd be stuck with him for another season. Credit where it's due, he does give his best ever game but it's no where near good enough.

[Zhong Yi]

CAN SOMEBODY STATE WHETHER THE MCLEISH OUT DAY THING WENT AHEAD? I WANT TO KNOW I LIVE IN CHINA - I AM FROM BRUM - AND WANT TO KNOW WHETHER THE SUPPORTERS HAVE HAD THEIR SAY. THANK YOU!

[TonyD]

Just think chaps. That was the last ever game that Heskey or McLeish will ever have for Villa at Villa Park.

It feels good. Real good.

Gives one a warm glow.

[Stu]

We are not safe yet, but you'd think QPR wouldn't get anything at City, so hopefully. Let the inquest into this abomination of a season begin.

Bolton would have to put in one special performance to reign in the GD as well.

[Dribbler]

Well thankfully I think we are safe though we made a complete meal of that game, are we sure they actually sent a Spuds player off and not a Villa one, as we looked like the team with a player down.

I think that says it all about McLeish however, a man up and a goal up and yet the side were set up to play so negatively that we couldn't even get the ball or string a decent attack together.

Overall I've got to say I think the team played well considering the way they were probably told to play, even Heskey and Hutton looked competent when they were on. A lot of effort and commitment put in. Rose deserved to go, that was a proper leg breaking tackle.

Dunne was great for 99% of the game, but as always, made that one crucial balls up and gave away the penalty.

N'Zogbia must be the dumbest footballer I've ever seen, I've seen amoeba with more intelligence than him, without fail almost every time he gets the ball he loses it or gives it away and misses the optimum pass. Get rid in the summer along with McLeish please.

Everyone else played well IMO, Ireland really put a shift in, so did Clark and Herd.

The main thing is why are pretty much safe, for this season....

McLeish Out!

[luke25]

Just in the car, did they have a man sent off or us? It was that hard to tell, Cuellar's definately off judging by his reaction after the game and on a personal note i've now gone the whole season without seeing us win, thank fuck its over.

[Fergal]

Ahh, safety.. albeit the most ugly brand, its a relief.

WE WERE ABSOLUTELY AWFUL AGAINST TEN MEN.

McLeish had no plan, no initiative to adapt to the circumstances. He just put the players out there and figured that was all he could do. Unacceptable display. I can't believe our inability to get a decent build in to the final third. They pressed so high with ten men that a little bit of possession in their end would be a gaurentee, but leave it to Villa to be out-played and out-possessed.

Ship em out, all of em.

Spot on.

He simply has to go now. No point delaying the pain!

Time to start rebuilding.  Get rid of all the wasters from the manager down. 
God knows who would want the job though, it will take us years to recover and getting the right man is essential.  He needs appointing quickly, to assess the squad and find replacements for the dross.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Forgot to mention, for the second game running, MOTM was the Villa fans.

Well done all for getting behind the team for 96 minutes.

[berneboy]

Whatever scenario you come up with we cannot lose a 17 goal difference.
We are safe.

Bolton win 2-0 at Stoke? Maybe.
Villa lose 15-0 at Norwich? I don't think so!

[Matt Collins]

Didn't enjoy following that one bit!

I don't like the personal abuse at all, but he really does need to go and we really do need to bring in some decent proven players this summer, in particular in central midfield and on the wing.

Definitely the worst season I can remember. I'm really sick o opposition fans being shocked at quite how bad we are.

Without significant changes I suspect another season like this will follow. And I really can't bear the thought of that.

[Fergal]

Just in the car, did they have a man sent off or us? It was that hard to tell, Cuellar's definately off judging by his reaction after the game and on a personal note i've now gone the whole season without seeing us win, thank fuck its over.

Did AMc get a load of shit at the end of the game?
Sadly he seems like a nice enough bloke but the only way to get him out is to hurl abuse at him and hope the owner reacts as we want him to.

[Michel Sibble]

Can't help thinking I'm still seeing O'*****'s style of play in this team - all without the confidence. Our attacking was fine, but in fits and starts, all with no real end product. We should not be overrun with 10 men facing us.

Defence was top-class, until Dunne moved into centre, and gave away a penalty. Cuellar MOM for me- absolutely immense.

N'Zogbia- has he been like this all season? Lazy, misplaced passes, often in really good attacking positions, no doubt no supply to any of the strikers.

Ireland - He's trying, and it's not his fault the squad he's in is no longer decent.

Herd and Clark - these are two players we should be building around. Clark should get the credit for the goal. Even Lichaj put in a shift.

Delfouenso - not good enough, sell him on. We shoud not be carrying players anymore. Either you're good enough or you're not. Clearly he isn't. We're not a charity.

Heskey - nver seen him on the wing before, marginally better there than upfront. Still move him on in the summer though.

Injuries: Weimann and Hutton both unlucky.


On the face of it I think McLeish has been hard done by, by his dunderhead players, by our own fans, by his own tactics (whatever they are) and by Lerner and Faulkner. But he knew what he was geting into and had a chance to prove all of us wrong and shape the team into his own. He has failed.
His record here is abysmal on all counts.
I'm not in favour of sacking managers after one season, and I have sat on the fence so far, but clearly McLeish has bottled it on numerous occassions and it has ended up with us staring relegation in the face.

He must go. So must half the squad.

[ez]

Well i thought the red card would even things up but no. Oh well, its over. What a dreadful season that was. Congrats to McLeish on the new record of 4 home wins in one season. It will take some beating.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Spot on there, Michel.