Quote from: saunders_heroes on April 30, 2012, 05:13:36 PMQuote from: John M'Zog on April 30, 2012, 04:45:43 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on April 30, 2012, 04:43:20 PMQuote from: John M'Zog on April 30, 2012, 04:42:10 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on April 30, 2012, 04:39:03 PMHands up who thinks Ellis would have employed the manager who just relegated Small Heath for the second time.Hands up who thought he'd hire the all but retired Sir Graham for the second time?Absolutely nothing compared to hiring McLeish, as well you know.In terms of fan reception, then no, but both still count as left field appointments that didn't work out. Oh come on. There's a bit of a difference between employing a still popular ex manager (all be it past his best) than taking on one of the most lamentable managers in Small Heath's history who had just relegated them for the second time. It pales into insignificance compared to the Taylor appointment. A ridiculous appointment that the likes of Ellis and Stride would have laughed at. If they had made this appointment they would have corrected the mistake before we finished up in this mess.
Quote from: John M'Zog on April 30, 2012, 04:45:43 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on April 30, 2012, 04:43:20 PMQuote from: John M'Zog on April 30, 2012, 04:42:10 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on April 30, 2012, 04:39:03 PMHands up who thinks Ellis would have employed the manager who just relegated Small Heath for the second time.Hands up who thought he'd hire the all but retired Sir Graham for the second time?Absolutely nothing compared to hiring McLeish, as well you know.In terms of fan reception, then no, but both still count as left field appointments that didn't work out. Oh come on. There's a bit of a difference between employing a still popular ex manager (all be it past his best) than taking on one of the most lamentable managers in Small Heath's history who had just relegated them for the second time. It pales into insignificance compared to the Taylor appointment. A ridiculous appointment that the likes of Ellis and Stride would have laughed at.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on April 30, 2012, 04:43:20 PMQuote from: John M'Zog on April 30, 2012, 04:42:10 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on April 30, 2012, 04:39:03 PMHands up who thinks Ellis would have employed the manager who just relegated Small Heath for the second time.Hands up who thought he'd hire the all but retired Sir Graham for the second time?Absolutely nothing compared to hiring McLeish, as well you know.In terms of fan reception, then no, but both still count as left field appointments that didn't work out.
Quote from: John M'Zog on April 30, 2012, 04:42:10 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on April 30, 2012, 04:39:03 PMHands up who thinks Ellis would have employed the manager who just relegated Small Heath for the second time.Hands up who thought he'd hire the all but retired Sir Graham for the second time?Absolutely nothing compared to hiring McLeish, as well you know.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on April 30, 2012, 04:39:03 PMHands up who thinks Ellis would have employed the manager who just relegated Small Heath for the second time.Hands up who thought he'd hire the all but retired Sir Graham for the second time?
Hands up who thinks Ellis would have employed the manager who just relegated Small Heath for the second time.
Did I imagine all the relegation battles we had under Doug?
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on April 30, 2012, 05:18:53 PMDid I imagine all the relegation battles we had under Doug? I must have missed all the managers Ellis poached from Small Heath as well.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on April 30, 2012, 05:33:33 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on April 30, 2012, 05:18:53 PMDid I imagine all the relegation battles we had under Doug? I must have missed all the managers Ellis poached from Small Heath as well. So you don't mind us being in relegation battles as long as our manager wasn't signed from small heath?
Doug did however try and get rid of Ron Saunders, if only he'd won that power battle eh. No league title, no European Cup. And we all knew Doug was doing the right thing employing Turner, McNeill, Dr. Jo and Graham Taylor MKII. Just because Doug probably wouldn't have appointed AM isn't a reason to pine for him.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on April 30, 2012, 04:39:03 PMHands up who thinks Ellis would have employed the manager who just relegated Small Heath for the second time. Never. He also wouldnt have burdned the club with £220m in debts for mostly shite players.Hindsight eh.
We'll probably stay up this season. Something we didn't do under Turner/McNeill. To me relegation is more of an abomination than staying up regardless of who is in charge. I was talking about prior to winning the league. Short of it is Doug lost and left. Had he won and stayed then Ron would have gone. So no league title or European Cup. The simple fact is Randy and Doug both made crap decisions at times.