Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[Toronto Villa]

Didn't see the game tonight as my first child was born yesterday, and watching him asleep seemed much more appealing. I've pieced together the game from reports and this thread, but can someone tell me what the 'abuse' was like that the fans game McLeish? Was it just at the final whistle, or was there prolonged chanting? Small minority joining in or was it the noisy majority? Hopefully by the time my son is old enough to come with me to Villa Park we'll have a manager to proud of and be back in the top flight! UTV

congrats Beds. Enjoy the moment. Villa is a long way from my thoughts when I look at my two little girls.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Come on, I'm not blaming Villa fans for the season. I'm blaming McLeish and Randy more than anyone. But on a game by game basis the atmosphere tonight was fucking poisonous with 10 minutes left, and a more positive atmosphere might have helped us grab a goal. That's all. To me, on the Holte, on 80 minutes, all that mattered was equalising. Protest about the manager later, he ain't getting subbed before the end of this game.

[SoccerHQ]

After the way we lost tonight, we could easily lose the next three imo.

Which I think would relegate us.

I really am starting to think the unthinkable now. Honestly you'd have had to be a proper doomonger to imagine all this happening two years ago.

Awful.

[Shaun Teales mom]

Left early tonight and considering the score at the time that isn't something I expected.

But I'd have come to blows with half the ground had I stayed. I am no McLeish apologist. I think he's fucking useless. I was Lerner's biggest fan until this season; but he has fucked up big time.

That being said, having 90% of the ground singing 'FUCK MCLEISH' with 5 minutes of normal time to go had me totally aghast. Fucking idiocy of the highest order. You want to send a message to Randy, fine, do it on the whistle. During the game try to bear in mind that half our team are children, for whom Alex McLeish is their managerial introduction to senior football. However crap he is, he is their main motivation for the rest of tonight and our remaining games this season. That kind of negativity with time left, for us to score a potentially vital goal, made me fucking sick and wonder if hey, maybe the media are right, our fans are a bunch of wankers?

As for the game? Thought we played OK, again no lack of commitment though clearly a lack of cutting edge. 2 minutes of shitting ourselves has cost us here. And Carlos to give away the pen! Everyones favourite, my fucking favourite. What can you do?!

Are crazy/mental Mcleish hasn't been able to motivate the team for a whole bloody season what in Christ name makes you think he could of done it with just 5 minutes left,? he deserves what he got its just a shame we never started earlier.And before you start cussing people about supporting there team for a whole match try not leaving early!!

[mrfuse]

Left early tonight and considering the score at the time that isn't something I expected.

But I'd have come to blows with half the ground had I stayed. I am no McLeish apologist. I think he's fucking useless. I was Lerner's biggest fan until this season; but he has fucked up big time.

That being said, having 90% of the ground singing 'FUCK MCLEISH' with 5 minutes of normal time to go had me totally aghast. Fucking idiocy of the highest order. You want to send a message to Randy, fine, do it on the whistle. During the game try to bear in mind that half our team are children, for whom Alex McLeish is their managerial introduction to senior football. However crap he is, he is their main motivation for the rest of tonight and our remaining games this season. That kind of negativity with time left, for us to score a potentially vital goal, made me fucking sick and wonder if hey, maybe the media are right, our fans are a bunch of wankers?

As for the game? Thought we played OK, again no lack of commitment though clearly a lack of cutting edge. 2 minutes of shitting ourselves has cost us here. And Carlos to give away the pen! Everyones favourite, my fucking favourite. What can you do?!

This post has me"totally Aghast" .......we played okay are you for real!

[Fergal]

Fergal loves a poll.

I can't for a second see that it would not be 100% out now.

I do like a poll, just wondering if it will be around the 80 odd % it was last time.

[villainjock]

yep.

[David_Nab]

I wasn't there but I'd imagine the constant long balls getting us no where and once again our hopelesness at corners was a factor in fans just giving up.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Yeah, the best time to made your thoughts known, as a collective crowd, is when the manager and players have walked off the pitch, and when the cameras have stopped rolling...hang on.

How about when the whistle goes? While all cameras are still on the pitch, but any negativity won't affect the result of the game?

Explain what's wrong with that? Or is logically flawed sarcasm all you have to defend that shit tonight.?

[BedsVillain]

Didn't see the game tonight as my first child was born yesterday, and watching him asleep seemed much more appealing. I've pieced together the game from reports and this thread, but can someone tell me what the 'abuse' was like that the fans game McLeish? Was it just at the final whistle, or was there prolonged chanting? Small minority joining in or was it the noisy majority? Hopefully by the time my son is old enough to come with me to Villa Park we'll have a manager to proud of and be back in the top flight! UTV

congrats Beds. Enjoy the moment. Villa is a long way from my thoughts when I look at my two little girls.

Cheers mate, he certainly seems to have had a calming effect on me tonight. Just want him to be proud of the Villa crest baby grow he's got when he gets home with his Mum!

[Nastylee]

Day started great with my wife giving birth to our first child, and then at 9.30pm I log on to 'Score Centre' to see that pile of shit! TBH it's no longer worth getting worked up about it! The only way Villa stay up is if the teams below mess it up.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Left early tonight and considering the score at the time that isn't something I expected.

But I'd have come to blows with half the ground had I stayed. I am no McLeish apologist. I think he's fucking useless. I was Lerner's biggest fan until this season; but he has fucked up big time.

That being said, having 90% of the ground singing 'FUCK MCLEISH' with 5 minutes of normal time to go had me totally aghast. Fucking idiocy of the highest order. You want to send a message to Randy, fine, do it on the whistle. During the game try to bear in mind that half our team are children, for whom Alex McLeish is their managerial introduction to senior football. However crap he is, he is their main motivation for the rest of tonight and our remaining games this season. That kind of negativity with time left, for us to score a potentially vital goal, made me fucking sick and wonder if hey, maybe the media are right, our fans are a bunch of wankers?

As for the game? Thought we played OK, again no lack of commitment though clearly a lack of cutting edge. 2 minutes of shitting ourselves has cost us here. And Carlos to give away the pen! Everyones favourite, my fucking favourite. What can you do?!

This post has me"totally Aghast" .......we played okay are you for real!

Dominated the game. Created little. Only looked in trouble for a 5 minute spell after we scored.

I'd say overall we weren't awful tonight. Certainly the better team on balance of play. Your view?

[mrfuse]

I wasn't there but I'd imagine the constant long balls getting us no where and once again our hopelesness at corners was a factor in fans just giving up.

You big fat liar

[ROBBO]

They looked the more likely to get a goal in the last five minutes.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

From being in control, to scoring, to complete shit against a shit team in 3 minutes. How the fuck did that happen?!?!?!