Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[Holte End Stylist]

for those of you watching in black and white this nightmare is in technicolour.................and won't have gone away when you wake up Randy

My morning glory regularly dictates me waking up Randy.

[Nev]

Thats right, it's the fans fault.

Don't be simplistic. For me, it's partly Randy's fault, a bit O'Neills fault, and a lot McLeish's fault. But turning the atmosphere poisonous with 5 minutes left doesn't help our team of Academy grads try to force a potentially relegation avoiding equaliser across the line. Are you only capable of seeing things in such obvious stripes of black and white?

No. I think our fans have been amazingly patient this season considering the dross that has been served up and just lost it tonight in frustration. The blames lies with the chairman for the apointment of the manager. An expert in relegation and thats what we've got. Regardless of the fans support, this was inevitable.

[Apyadg]

have just cancelled my Genting account in protest including an e-mail to them.dont care if im petty just frustrated.i had  supported mccleish but hope is gone. stomach churning. bleak future!

That might be the most bizarre thing I've ever read.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Tell you what else pissed me off tonight. 'Villa' fans celebrating a Chelsea goal while walking down the Witton Lane after our defeat.

Sure they were only 6 years old but I still wanted to give 'em a whack

[Toronto Villa]

what's going to sink us is the lack of confidence and belief. Right now, what differentiates those who stay up and those who succumb is mental strength. Given our record in the past 3 months, and the run to come I don't see how mentally, let alone from a quality standpoint not sure we are going to find a way to pull this off.

[KevinGage]

Left early tonight and considering the score at the time that isn't something I expected.

But I'd have come to blows with half the ground had I stayed. I am no McLeish apologist. I think he's fucking useless. I was Lerner's biggest fan until this season; but he has fucked up big time.

That being said, having 90% of the ground singing 'FUCK MCLEISH' with 5 minutes of normal time to go had me totally aghast. Fucking idiocy of the highest order. You want to send a message to Randy, fine, do it on the whistle. During the game try to bear in mind that half our team are children, for whom Alex McLeish is their managerial introduction to senior football. However crap he is, he is their main motivation for the rest of tonight and our remaining games this season. That kind of negativity with time left, for us to score a potentially vital goal, made me fucking sick and wonder if hey, maybe the media are right, our fans are a bunch of wankers?

As for the game? Thought we played OK, again no lack of commitment though clearly a lack of cutting edge. 2 minutes of shitting ourselves has cost us here. And Carlos to give away the pen! Everyones favourite, my fucking favourite. What can you do?!

Yeah.  Shit fans. 

Probably their fault we've only won 4 games at home this season too. 
What about our shit form on the road too though -where it's widely acknowledged our support is generally first rate? 

If anything, I've been amazed at the tolerance of our supporters this season. 

A few murmurs v Wigan away, but - apart from that-  he hasn't come in for the abuse his contribution probably merits.

[Legion]

Bollocks. Fuck. Shit. Crap.

[glasses]

Left early tonight and considering the score at the time that isn't something I expected.

But I'd have come to blows with half the ground had I stayed. I am no McLeish apologist. I think he's fucking useless. I was Lerner's biggest fan until this season; but he has fucked up big time.

That being said, having 90% of the ground singing 'FUCK MCLEISH' with 5 minutes of normal time to go had me totally aghast. Fucking idiocy of the highest order. You want to send a message to Randy, fine, do it on the whistle. During the game try to bear in mind that half our team are children, for whom Alex McLeish is their managerial introduction to senior football. However crap he is, he is their main motivation for the rest of tonight and our remaining games this season. That kind of negativity with time left, for us to score a potentially vital goal, made me fucking sick and wonder if hey, maybe the media are right, our fans are a bunch of wankers?

As for the game? Thought we played OK, again no lack of commitment though clearly a lack of cutting edge. 2 minutes of shitting ourselves has cost us here. And Carlos to give away the pen! Everyones favourite, my fucking favourite. What can you do?!

I see what you're saying, but he has been in charge for 35 league games, and has been given plenty of good will. It has taken 35 games for the fans to have a real go at him, which I think is pretty fair

[BedsVillain]

Didn't see the game tonight as my first child was born yesterday, and watching him asleep seemed much more appealing. I've pieced together the game from reports and this thread, but can someone tell me what the 'abuse' was like that the fans game McLeish? Was it just at the final whistle, or was there prolonged chanting? Small minority joining in or was it the noisy majority? Hopefully by the time my son is old enough to come with me to Villa Park we'll have a manager to proud of and be back in the top flight! UTV

[1_Pablo_Angel]

Thats right, it's the fans fault.

Don't be simplistic. For me, it's partly Randy's fault, a bit O'Neills fault, and a lot McLeish's fault. But turning the atmosphere poisonous with 5 minutes left doesn't help our team of Academy grads try to force a potentially relegation avoiding equaliser across the line. Are you only capable of seeing things in such obvious stripes of black and white?

No. I think our fans have been amazingly patient this season considering the dross that has been served up and just lost it tonight in frustration. The blames lies with the chairman for the apointment of the manager. An expert in relegation and thats what we've got. Regardless of the fans support, this was inevitable.

I'd agree with you about him being a chance til now. Sadly, 'now' is what it's come down to. We're all frustrated... I'm not exactly calm tonight ffs. I just think anyone capable of applying a bit of brain power would have realised that all that mattered, until the final whistle tonight, was getting behind the lads. I find it very difficult to understand any other mentality.

[Matt Collins]

just read on sky, officially our worst home season in our entire history! have just cancelled my Genting account in protest including an e-mail to them.dont care if im petty just frustrated.i had  supported mccleish but hope is gone. stomach churning. bleak future!

Wtf??! Will you be refusing to buy any Scottish manufactured dog walking devices too?

[Apyadg]

Yeah, the best time to made your thoughts known, as a collective crowd, is when the manager and players have walked off the pitch, and when the cameras have stopped rolling...hang on.

[Apyadg]

just read on sky, officially our worst home season in our entire history! have just cancelled my Genting account in protest including an e-mail to them.dont care if im petty just frustrated.i had  supported mccleish but hope is gone. stomach churning. bleak future!

Wtf??! Will you be refusing to buy any Scottish manufactured dog walking devices too?

I am definitely stealing that.

[BedsVillain]

According to twitter the press are still waiting for McLeish to turn up for the press conference!

[paulcomben]

Calming down and getting back to basics, it is historically impossible for any manager to take a squad with that much proven and potential talent and produce stats that bad. Are KMac and Sid so weak that they cannot give him even a hint?