Relegation Watch

[Dave]

They were wrong, yes, but not by enough to label them drama queens.

*shrugs* I disagree.

It wasn't quite at the ridiculous level of last season, but as recently as ten days ago we had people saying that we had no chance of staying up.

Without taking into account important things like say, our remaining fixtures. Or other teams having to win games as well.

[pauliewalnuts]

We haven't gone down, but we are probably going to stay up on goal difference.

It's not the most convincing "how mad we're you lot?" for those who thought we'd go down. They weren't right, but they weren't wrong by a very large degree.

[PeterWithesShin]

I saw plenty of references to Sheff Wed when some folks used them as an example of what can happen to a big club if they get relegated. I don't recall anyone saying we would do a Sheff Wed.

[pauliewalnuts]

They were wrong, yes, but not by enough to label them drama queens.

*shrugs* I disagree.

It wasn't quite at the ridiculous level of last season, but as recently as ten days ago we had people saying that we had no chance of staying up.

Without taking into account important things like say, our remaining fixtures. Or other teams having to win games as well.

"No chance of staying up" is a different thing, though, isn't it?

As I said above, we are going to stay up by the slimmest of possible margins. Given that, there's not much very convincing in the way we have limped to safety.

[Dave]

We haven't gone down, but we are probably going to stay up on goal difference.

It's not the most convincing "how mad we're you lot?" for those who thought we'd go down. They weren't right, but they weren't wrong by a very large degree.

Again, I don't disagree. I wouldn't have taken issue with anybody who said "we could go down" or even "we are likely to go down".

But those who said "we are definitely going down" (and there were several) were just being silly. And it's not simply a case of saying that with the benefit of hindsight.

[Risso]

Thinking we would go straight into the third division would be drama queen behaviour but i didn't see anyone saying that. We were always likely to stay up but there was also a very real possibility we would have gone into the last day equal on points with QPR and Bolton, and then anything might have happened. You seem to think that Bolton might beat Stoke. Most people who were worried about going down weren't drama queens, it wasn't that far off happening.

I saw it. I saw plenty of references to 'doing a Sheffield Wednesday.' Something like 63% in a poll said we'd go down. We haven't. 

The reference to Sheffield Wednesday was obviously people saying what "could" happen if we did go down.  Which we didn't of course, not that staying up is anything to crow about.

[PeterWithesShin]

We've managed to stay up by winning 1 of our last 15 games. We've won 3 games in 2012. And one of those was against Bristol Rovers. It's not really surprising people started fearing the worst.

[hawkeye]

I was convinced we would go down after the Bolton game, the following weekends results changed that.
After the event the recriminations begin, this has more to do with the state our club are in than people wanting to point the finger.

[pauliewalnuts]

We'll have to disagree then.

Last year, we finished ninth and you could say we made the predictions look daft. This year, we are going to stay up on goal difference.

They were wrong, but wrong by the slimmest of margins, far too slim for there to be room for "how mad we're you guys?" style reckoning.

The entire season has been utterly wretched, though, and there's no way we should have been shitting ourselves over our survival into May.

[Risso]

We've managed to stay up by winning 1 of our last 15 games. We've won 3 games in 2012. And one of those was against Bristol Rovers. It's not really surprising people started fearing the worst.

Indeed.  1 win in almost half a season is feeble beyond belief.  It's not like we've even looked like winning many of those, or can point to a string of dodgy decisions.  We've just been mostly shit.

[PeterWithesShin]

For it to be GD that keeps us up won't Bolton have to win, us lose and QPR get at least a point at Citeh?

[ez]

We've managed to stay up by winning 1 of our last 15 games. We've won 3 games in 2012. And one of those was against Bristol Rovers. It's not really surprising people started fearing the worst.

If someone told me after the Fulham game that it was our last win of the season i would have told them don't be daft.

[oldtimernow]

We're only surviving because we ran out of time...if there were 39 games we would be gone I reckon

[pauliewalnuts]

We've managed to stay up by winning 1 of our last 15 games. We've won 3 games in 2012. And one of those was against Bristol Rovers. It's not really surprising people started fearing the worst.

If someone told me after the Fulham game that it was our last win of the season i would have told them don't be daft.

For me the thing that has characterised this season has been the number of times we've looked at a run of games and said "that's a run of winnable games" and then won none of them.

[Chipsticks]

For it to be GD that keeps us up won't Bolton have to win, us lose and QPR get at least a point at Citeh?

Yeah, and even if that should happen, the largest victory in the history of the premier league would have to take place away at Stoke by Bolton, coupled with us losing by a similar margin.

It's not going to happen, but I won't be happy until it's certain.