Manchester United v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Walmley_Villa]

Just back from a great weekend in London. Loads of scousers yesterday out having fun. Followed the game on the match thread on the train back and no surprises. The management are totally uninspiring and we are approaching the end game. The players and management should be hurting and angry and not congratulating and praising the opposition is an unacceptable disgrace. I really fear going into the next 2 games with McFuckwit and Grant and pray a miracle happens. I know it won't and Randy will be silent and let it all unravel. God help us.

[garyshawsknee]

I imagine he presented his former gaffer a beautifully ironed white flag prior to the game too.

Draped over his fore arm when he served his ex boss his first bottle of wine.

[danlanza]

Did we really expect anything else from today?Manyoooo lose against Wigan and there is going to be a backlash against any team they play next at home.We just need to stop up this season and let the young lads on the pitch get some experience,get rid of this useless tosshead of a manager and then next season we might just suprise a few people.the team is not a bad one,they just need a leader of the pitch and a leader on it and at the moment we have neither.I just hope we dont fold and give up after this game,cause then we are proper fucked!

[Dave Clark Five]

yeah its true the Young dive didn't even bother me its not like it altered the course of the game

You can get tablets for this, you know.

[hawkeye]

Excellent post BG.
What do we expect, we have an owner that has a track record of being a very bad Sports Club owner, a manager that has a very bad track record in terms of leadership tactics and success and a CEO who looks and sounds like a bloke that you would find running a very monor branch of Currys.

[Steve67]

Sometime you have to balance things up.  We played a very strong team, at their place, we played a load of young kids etc.  And I can imagine Mcshit telling his players "you're not likely to get anything out of todays boys so don't bust a gut and go getting injured, we've got more important games to come".
I think many of the players may have taken him at his word and helped him run that white flag up the pole before the game.  Agbonlahor as Captain is a joke, unless Mcshit wants him to learn about responsibility?  Today, he was disinterested, fucking useless. 

Bannan, Hutton, Lichaj, Baker and Collins were all poor. The only bright spot today for me was the little cameo role Carruthers played towards the end.  To lose 4-0 at United might not be completely unexpected, but the manner of the defeat is still gripping my shit.  McLeish's tongue up Ferguson's arse is also tough to take.  I hate both of them.  McLeish needs to go, a fan protest might affect the players negatively, but the club need to know what we are feeling.

[Ron Manager]

This is worse than anything I have experienced in 65 years.   Worse to endure.   Worst to get through.   Worst to live with.

We have had dozens of worse players than those who wore the shirt today.   We have played dozens of games in which we were worse than we were today.   We have even had managers as bad - in their own ways - as McLeish.   What sets this season apart from the 64 others I have witnessed was summed up in a word by Mazrim a few days ago.   That word is predictable.

I have never experienced such empty hopelessness as I do at the moment.   The owner is the billionaire son of a billionaire.   He lives a long way away.   He gives every impression that he no longer cares for the club he bought.   Nobody knows what the plan is for the future or even if there is a plan.   Those of us who love the club have to survive on scraps of rumour and hearsay.   It is for all the world as though we, the fans do not exist.   The manager has been appointed.   The manager has been given his orders.   The board has been appointed.   The board has been given its orders.   Where do the supporters figure in that?   Answer.  They don't.

From the very instant that we were told that McLeish was to be our manager everything which has happened and which continues to happen including the game today and the facile and patronizing comments by Ferguson about McLeish were totally predictable.

When Gerry Francis was made England captain back in the day, the Guardian ran a headline "Adrift with a stoker at the wheel".   We have nobody at the wheel because all the real power is vested in Randy Lerner and to all intents and purposes as far as Villa are concerned he is dead.

All of this, the relegation spectre, the truly awful football, the shrinking gates, the demoralized players, the good hidings from competent teams and scraped draws against the dross is all so entirely and cruelly predictable.   Alas so is nothing being done until we are relegated.  Not being relegated is now our Champions League.

Excellent post typed with feeling. Ive done 55.5 yrs and apart from when Tony Hateley left to that day in Dec 68 when Doug breezed in this is as bad as it gets.
And if we dont beat Bolton we could very well go down

We have an 80yr old Ex Chairman who goes to practically every game and a current chairman who has been to two!  says it all really.

[danlanza]

FERGUSONS COCK WAS RIGHT IN MCUSELESS'S MOUTH AT THE END OF THE GAME.FUCKIN SICK OF HAVING A "MANAGER" WHO SEES A DRAW OR A LOSS AS A POSITIVE FUCKING RESULT.I KNOW I AM USING CAPITAL LETTERS ON THIS THREAD BUT I REALLY FEEL LIKE SHOUTING SO BOLLOCKS!!!1!!!!!!

[cdward]

"The young lions have come to the Theatre of Dreams, the champions, a world-class club side playing against people like Scholes thinking can we get close to them, can we stop them playing?

From McLeish after match report on the OS. Two words, McLeish Out!

[Legion]

Link please?

[Big Dick Edwards]

Congratulations Ashley, you've joined the ****** Club, previously only populated by Steve Hodge and Nigel Callaghan. As a former captain of our great club you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself for that embarassingly blatant dive. I hope you get what you deserve in life and I look forward to welcoming you back to Villa Park, whenever that may be.

[Risso]

yeah its true the Young dive didn't even bother me its not like it altered the course of the game

You can get tablets for this, you know.

How's McLeish's "passion" working out for you?

[Legion]

Next season. Can't wait.

[Summers]

Also, while I remember. This season I have been impressed by our Academy kids.

Herd, Clark, Bannan, Lichaj, Baker have all impressed me massively. Even Carruthers has looked a gem..

But the one name some fans always told us about was Gardner. About how great he is, how he's the best young talent we have, etc.. and I haven't been impressed at all yet. I know it's early to judge, but when other Academy players are stepping up and showing what they're capable of, I expect Gardner to as well.

[Risso]

McLeish on the OS:

"Alex McLeish has called on Villa to raise themselves for "three cup finals" against Sunderland, Bolton and West Brom following the defeat to Manchester United.

McLeish was frustrated with the loss at Old Trafford although he was proud of the efforts of his young lions who came up against the champions elect in their own backyard.

McLeish felt the two goals in the first half were very avoidable - challenging the award of an early penalty for the first and calling the second "rotten" from a defensive perspective.

The Villa boss now wants his side to put the loss to one side  and concentrate on the trio of big matches as the team look to move up the Barclays Premier League table.

He said: "I didn't think it was a penalty. Ashley has thrown his leg towards Ciaran. And Ciaran, having seen the replay, tries to pull his leg away.

"But Ashley has got his team a penalty. We know what Ashley is like in terms of the dummy - he tries to sell people - maybe we should have done better in that moment.

"But that early United goal set us back because we had started great. Andi had a good chance.

"The second goal was rotten. That was one we could have done without because it set us back a country mile. At one-down you're still in it.

"It looked a bread and butter cross, there was not great pace on it and it eluded everyone.

"Big Nathan let it go. I don't know why. He maybe thought there was no-one behind him.

"But that's one the young players will look at and think 'next time I will get my foot behind it and lace it out the pitch.'

"He has made that decision but I don't blame him in any way, shape or form because I thought he had another commanding game.

"I am proud of the young players again. They have had to grow up really quickly this season.

"Some haven't even played a full season in the reserve league. That is a measure of where we are with our resources.

"The young lions have come to the Theatre of Dreams, the champions, a world-class club side playing against people like Scholes thinking can we get close to them, can we stop them playing?

"Tactically we tried to do that. But actually putting it into practice is another ball game for the guys.

"They stuck manfully to it. But the goals were disappointing.

"Now we have three cup finals in the next couple of weeks. There's two at home and one away at West Brom. The players have got to be at their teeth in those games.

"We go into the Sunderland game and look for the three points. If we play like we have for the last couple of home matches, we have a really good chance."

On a positive note, McLeish confirmed Stan Petrov was at the training ground on Saturday to say hello to the players.

He added: "Stan is good. He was at training. He looks great. He has a new haircut - it suits him, it looks fantastic.

"He was having a laugh with the players. We think the world of Stan and I am sure he will be there to rally the players in the coming games."





The man is an utter, utter imbecile.