Manchester United v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[JUAN PABLO]

It was nice to see Ireland having a laugh with Rooney at the final whistle, maybe morale isn't as bad as we thought?

Oh.

swaping hair transplant and wig makers  phone numbers

[brian green]

This is worse than anything I have experienced in 65 years.   Worse to endure.   Worst to get through.   Worst to live with.

We have had dozens of worse players than those who wore the shirt today.   We have played dozens of games in which we were worse than we were today.   We have even had managers as bad - in their own ways - as McLeish.   What sets this season apart from the 64 others I have witnessed was summed up in a word by Mazrim a few days ago.   That word is predictable.

I have never experienced such empty hopelessness as I do at the moment.   The owner is the billionaire son of a billionaire.   He lives a long way away.   He gives every impression that he no longer cares for the club he bought.   Nobody knows what the plan is for the future or even if there is a plan.   Those of us who love the club have to survive on scraps of rumour and hearsay.   It is for all the world as though we, the fans do not exist.   The manager has been appointed.   The manager has been given his orders.   The board has been appointed.   The board has been given its orders.   Where do the supporters figure in that?   Answer.  They don't.

From the very instant that we were told that McLeish was to be our manager everything which has happened and which continues to happen including the game today and the facile and patronizing comments by Ferguson about McLeish were totally predictable.

When Gerry Francis was made England captain back in the day, the Guardian ran a headline "Adrift with a stoker at the wheel".   We have nobody at the wheel because all the real power is vested in Randy Lerner and to all intents and purposes as far as Villa are concerned he is dead.

All of this, the relegation spectre, the truly awful football, the shrinking gates, the demoralized players, the good hidings from competent teams and scraped draws against the dross is all so entirely and cruelly predictable.   Alas so is nothing being done until we are relegated.  Not being relegated is now our Champions League.

[Irish villain]

Top post as usual Brian.

[Matt Collins]

I'm just hoping we can bore draw our way to safety. It's next season i'm worried about.  I fancy us to get relegated, I really do. And nobody could say its not been coming. From before mcleish started, but massively exacerbated by him.

We've had bad luck of late injury wise. But the point is our run of easy I tires earlier on should have seen us well safe by now

But the thing I find most depressing is that I don't think mcleish would agree we've been playing badly

[pauliewalnuts]

I think it is the fact that, even with markedly better players available (which you could say was the state of play earlier this season when we had few injuries), we have a manager who would just do the same thing.

That is what makes it so hopeless.

[Summers]

Also Ireland joking with Rooney is nowhere near as bad, to me, as all the subs joking with Young. The man who just dived against his old club full of friends.

[PaulWinch again]

Yes Brian, bang on the money. It is now so depressingly predictable. I didn't even really get annoyed when Ashley dived, as we were inevitably going to lose without even a whimper.

[PeterWithesShin]

Also Ireland joking with Rooney is nowhere near as bad, to me, as all the subs joking with Young. The man who just dived against his old club full of friends.

I doubt any of them gave a shit really.

[VillaAlways]

But the thing I find most depressing is that I don't think mcleish would agree we've been playing badly

he's on record saying we haven't been playing badly I'm afraid and that he didnt think the results had been too bad

[Summers]

And that's what annoys me.

[TheSandman]

I HATE McLeish. I loathe him. He needs to get the fuck out of our beautiful club, now.

Well said.  The mere sight of him in our dug out makes me furious.

Yep, if I hear his voice on the TV or radio I have to change the channel. I'm thinking about buying a magnum of champagne for the day he finally slinks off back under his rock.

I'm not surprised or upset by the performance at all. It was exactly what I expected and exactly what I got. I thought Given and Baker were our two best players which says something considering the extent of our defeat. Gabby was absolutely shit. Unbelievably so, no leadership and no fucking effort which is absolutely abysmal from a captain. He's been so poor for so long he genuinely doesn't deserve to be in a team as shit as ours which is saying quite something.

[Des Little]

Seeing our first team coach clapping Rooney off when he was subbed did it for me.  What the fcuk is going on?

[Brian Taylor]

Definitely 'nearly a draw' in McL-speak against opposition of that cal-i-bre. 
We got away lightly! But i did put a quid on for Villa 2-0 @ 50-1..maybe that's what did it?

[TheSandman]

Oh, and Young is a ******. You'd hope that he'd at least have the decency to spare the cheating against the club that made him the player he is.

[VillaAlways]

Seeing our first team coach clapping Rooney off when he was subbed did it for me.  What the fcuk is going on?

You are joking I hope?