Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.

[PeterWithesShin]

Not sure how anyone can class Moyes as a mid-table manager when he has only finished lower than 8th 3 times in 11 seasons.

[Dave Cooper please]

If we'd finished mid or lower table, i'd be more happy with the risk. as it is the only reason we stayed up was because the teams below us run out of games. With our poor ability-wise and threadbare team is it really the time to gamble on a totally unproven left-field choice?

Yes. Because the alternatives are either not going to come here for the reasons you state above or are frankly meh!
We won't go down, even McLeish couldn't relegate us. We're bullet proof! Let's go [if I must say it] left-field, get a manager that might, just might, be the inspiration we need to start clawing our way back to something approaching glory.
 Or we could go for Lambert and finish 14th forever, better than last year but hardly inspiring.
 To paraphrase another of our esteemed posters, fuck it, let's at least die trying.

[bertlambshank]

Well said that man.

[Dave Cooper please]

Not sure how anyone can class Moyes as a mid-table manager when he has only finished lower than 8th 3 times in 11 seasons.

8th sounds fairly mid-table to me
I'd take Moyes though.

[garyshawsknee]

Lambert is just too much like O'Neill for comfort for me.

I think that's unfair. Lambert spent years training to be a coach in Germany. Can you imagine O'Neill doing that? He's probably never heard of Germany. Lambert also shows an ability to get the best out of his players by regularly rotating the team and changing the formation depending on the opposition. He doesn't just play the same team every week and swap one big centre-forward for another one on 70 minutes every week.

I think the (very slight) similarity in appearance and dress is all they have in common as managers.

Hit the n on the h.

[cdbearsfan]

If we'd finished mid or lower table, i'd be more happy with the risk. as it is the only reason we stayed up was because the teams below us run out of games. With our poor ability-wise and threadbare team is it really the time to gamble on a totally unproven left-field choice?

Yes. Because the alternatives are either not going to come here for the reasons you state above or are frankly meh!
We won't go down, even McLeish couldn't relegate us. We're bullet proof! Let's go [if I must say it] left-field, get a manager that might, just might, be the inspiration we need to start clawing our way back to something approaching glory.
 Or we could go for Lambert and finish 14th forever, better than last year but hardly inspiring.
 To paraphrase another of our esteemed posters, fuck it, let's at least die trying.

I see no reason whatsoever why Lambert can't be inspiring. He's finished 1st, 2nd and 12th in his last three seasons so I also see no reason for your assumption that he'd finish 14th every year, managing a much bigger club.

[ozzjim]

If you take some time out to read the Norwich forums, the similarities with MON are too close to the bone. The 12 month rolling contract, the often fairly direct tactics to Holt, the conceding of possession in a game (which if we are looking for a philosophy of football is not what I would want), the high energy pressing, the only coming to see the players on the final 2-3 days of the week, leaving all the coaching to Ian Culverhouse, and apparently a lot of the tactics. He has done a stunningly good job there, but we had 4 years of an aloof Martin, Lambert is just too close for comfort for me. If we get him I will be happy enough and support him but I have my reservations. Solskjaer for me has a better mentor, who has won significantly more important trophies and shown you have to adapt throughout a managerial career, O'Neill.... adapt.... hmmm. I maybe doing him a great disservice, and I am well aware that he learnt efficient football coaching when doing his badges in Germany, but he is not for me. I want my side to get the ball and play a bit. For me the excitement with OLG is that he is fresh, he does have a clear plan on how he wants his side to play and is a "tracksuit" manager so to speak, watching the kids through to the first team, on the training pitch, knowing what subs to make etc. I think he will be a bigger gamble, but have much bigger reward, and not have the spectre of Martin over us.

[andyh]

If you take some time out to read the Norwich forums, the similarities with MON are too close to the bone. The 12 month rolling contract, the often fairly direct tactics to Holt, the conceding of possession in a game (which if we are looking for a philosophy of football is not what I would want), the high energy pressing, the only coming to see the players on the final 2-3 days of the week, leaving all the coaching to Ian Culverhouse, and apparently a lot of the tactics. He has done a stunningly good job there, but we had 4 years of an aloof Martin, Lambert is just too close for comfort for me. If we get him I will be happy enough and support him but I have my reservations. Solskjær for me has a better mentor, who has won significantly more important trophies and shown you have to adapt throughout a managerial career, O'Neill.... adapt.... hmmm. I maybe doing him a great disservice, and I am well aware that he learnt efficient football coaching when doing his badges in Germany, but he is not for me. I want my side to get the ball and play a bit. For me the excitement with OLG is that he is fresh, he does have a clear plan on how he wants his side to play and is a "tracksuit" manager so to speak, watching the kids through to the first team, on the training pitch, knowing what subs to make etc. I think he will be a bigger gamble, but have much bigger reward, and not have the spectre of Martin over us.

This is pretty much how I see it.
I was a bit concerned about OGS when it first came out the other day, but the more I think about it, the more and more I am excited about it.
I think we really do need a new direction and approach.
Lambert has the aura of MON about him. There have been many games this season when his team has just sat back and hit teams on the break. The game at Villa was one of those.
Rodgers ? I seem to recall his team seeing games where they pass the ball around a hell of a lot but not actually go anywhere.
No, its OGS for me.

Lets go for it.

[pauliewalnuts]

I know there are lots of other factors involved and this doesn't make that much sense, but I can't help feeling Lambert means change but Solkjaer means total change, and things have got so bad at VP, total change is what we need.

[PeterWithe]

So Lambert is too much like MON then? I'd be happy to see us return to finishing in the top 6 every year, getting to Wembley and Europe and gubbing the Blues every time they raise their heads.

[pauliewalnuts]

I'd be even happier if it didn't mean the return of low scoring, dull as dishwater football at home.

[andyh]

I think the biggest differnce between now and what went on last summer, is that the club 'appear' to have learnt from that experience and I seems there is a genuine effort to approach a far, far better calibre of potential manager.

Of course, it remains to be seen, but I think I feel more confident this time round.

[PeterWithe]

Isn't it 'ditchwater'?

[ozzjim]

I'd be even happier if it didn't mean the return of low scoring, dull as dishwater football at home.

Too right!

Interesting, this was in the Daily Mail today... no idea how much truth is in it.

Roberto Martinez remains the bookmakers’ favourite to succeed Dalglish but, after having spoken to Aston Villa on Thursday, he did not have talks with Liverpool on Friday.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2146603/Andre-Villas-Boas-talk-Liverpool-managers-job.html#ixzz1vIVWz6er

[VillaAlways]

If the story in the Mail is true I presume we asked permission Funny Whelan didnt broadcast that. The turd