Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.

[hawkeye]

OGS looks like desperation, Lambert and Rogers are the obvious targets, I think not getting either of those means we drop our ambitions to OGS.

That makes little to no sense.

"I wanted this person or that person. Because the papers aren't talking about them, that means we've failed and we're looking at inferior options".

It's possible that this is just who they think will do a good job. Rightly or wrongly.

Looking at it objectively, OGS does not have a CV that would suggest he is ready to manage a top PL club.

Neither did McLeech nor arguably JG and GT1 either! I understand OGS doesn't appeal to you Hawkeye and that's fair enough, but I'm more excited about him than McCarthy, Bruce, Curbs etc, far more!

same here

[hawkeye]

OGS looks like desperation, Lambert and Rogers are the obvious targets, I think not getting either of those means we drop our ambitions to OGS.

That makes little to no sense.

"I wanted this person or that person. Because the papers aren't talking about them, that means we've failed and we're looking at inferior options".

It's possible that this is just who they think will do a good job. Rightly or wrongly.

Looking at it objectively, OGS does not have a CV that would suggest he is ready to manage a top PL club.

Nor does he have a CV that suggests that he would make a mess of it either.

And that makes sense?

[Dave]

OGS looks like desperation, Lambert and Rogers are the obvious targets, I think not getting either of those means we drop our ambitions to OGS.

That makes little to no sense.

"I wanted this person or that person. Because the papers aren't talking about them, that means we've failed and we're looking at inferior options".

It's possible that this is just who they think will do a good job. Rightly or wrongly.

Looking at it objectively, OGS does not have a CV that would suggest he is ready to manage a top PL club.

Nor does he have a CV that suggests that he would make a mess of it either.

And that makes sense?

Yes. Which bit of it doesn't?

[hawkeye]

The Norwegian League is about League 1 level at best. Some people obviously have not got thier heads around this.

[dave.woodhall]

The Norwegian League is about League 1 level at best. Some people obviously have not got thier heads around this.

Excuse us for lacking your wisdom.

[hawkeye]

OGS looks like desperation, Lambert and Rogers are the obvious targets, I think not getting either of those means we drop our ambitions to OGS.

That makes little to no sense.

"I wanted this person or that person. Because the papers aren't talking about them, that means we've failed and we're looking at inferior options".

It's possible that this is just who they think will do a good job. Rightly or wrongly.

Looking at it objectively, OGS does not have a CV that would suggest he is ready to manage a top PL club.

Nor does he have a CV that suggests that he would make a mess of it either.

And that makes sense?

Yes. Which bit of it doesn't?

I give up

[hawkeye]

The Norwegian League is about League 1 level at best. Some people obviously have not got thier heads around this.

Excuse us for lacking your wisdom.

Here we go.

[tomd2103]

OGS looks like desperation, Lambert and Rogers are the obvious targets, I think not getting either of those means we drop our ambitions to OGS.

That makes little to no sense.

"I wanted this person or that person. Because the papers aren't talking about them, that means we've failed and we're looking at inferior options".

It's possible that this is just who they think will do a good job. Rightly or wrongly.

Looking at it objectively, OGS does not have a CV that would suggest he is ready to manage a top PL club.

Neither did McLeech nor arguably JG and GT1 either! I understand OGS doesn't appeal to you Hawkeye and that's fair enough, but I'm more excited about him than McCarthy, Bruce, Curbs etc, far more!

Clearly the reason that people are so on board with the idea is the unknown.

It's the fact that the board, following the well-publicised "has to have Premier League experience" have finally realised and decided, just as we wanted them to "fuck it, that didn't work. Let's try something new" rather than throwing more mud at the same wall.
Even if this doesn't work (and it could be a catastrophe), at least it shows they are thinking. Which is all I really want for the moment.

GT1 took Watford from the Fourth Division to the First, finished runners up in the First Division and got to an FA Cup final before joining Villa.  Agree about McLeish and JG though.

Don't think the "Premier League Experience" stipulation was a bad one, just that they made a shocking choice. 

 

 

[dave.woodhall]

The Norwegian League is about League 1 level at best. Some people obviously have not got thier heads around this.

Excuse us for lacking your wisdom.

Here we go.

Here we go where? You're the one saying the rest of us "haven't got our heads round this" so perhaps you could explain what it is that makes your opinion so special that not only are the rest of us inferior, we're also not allowed to question you. Or is it just me?

[hawkeye]

The Norwegian League is about League 1 level at best. Some people obviously have not got thier heads around this.

Excuse us for lacking your wisdom.

Here we go.

Here we go where? You're the one saying the rest of us "haven't got our heads round this" so perhaps you could explain what it is that makes your opinion so special that not only are the rest of us inferior, we're also not allowed to question you. Or is it just me?

Down the well trodden track, disagree with one Mod and reinforcements arrive, then the "what makes your opinion so special" or "are we not allowed to disagree with you" add in the false acustation that I have some how said the rest of you are inferior.
The next line is probably you dont have to be on this site if you dont like it.

[Billy Walker]

I think Hawkeye has a more than valid point.  Let's put this another way: what has Solskjaer got on his CV that says he can sort out our near-relegated club?  Why not throw our lot in with title-winning Neil Lennon?  Steve McLaren's CV is is quite similar to Solksjaer's - leaving aside the England and 'Boro bits - let's get him back in the ring. 

[dave.woodhall]

Down the well trodden track, disagree with one Mod and reinforcements arrive, then the "what makes your opinion so special" or "are we not allowed to disagree with you" add in the false acustation that I have some how said the rest of you are inferior.
The next line is probably you dont have to be on this site if you dont like it.

It's only a well-trodden track if you were the one walking it first. Nobody is reinforcing me, I reinforce nobody because of who they are and I'm not aware of anyone else who does so either. I don't have a problem whatsoever with your giving your opinion and leave the sentence "Some people obviously have not got thier heads around this." to everyone else to judge whether you are claiming your views to be better than ours or not.

[James]

Did Lambert & Rodgers have CV's 12 months ago that suggested they were ready to manage in the PL?

No but they had pretty decent track record in managing in a league that is way ahead of the Norwegian league.

Okay, just to play Devil's Advocate, what about the oft-touted David Moyes? Most would say he's a great manager, done wonders at Everton on a budget etc etc. There is also the counter viewpoint that he's the archetypal master of mid-table mediocrity that lacks the ambition to move on and win things elsewhere so sits in his comfort zone doubtless pocketing a seven figure salary annually. He'd be safer pair of hands than McLeech was supposed to have been for sure and would be uber-expensive too, but would he inspire me? No, frankly. He'd be the 'happy just to be in the league' appointment that McLeech was supposed to have been. What have Everton ever done under him? OGS, or someone of his ilk, would be a bold 'sod it let's at least give it a go' appointment with maybe the longer term approach in mind. As Dave said above, it could be a huge disaster, but at least we'd be trying something new and haven't we all wanted the board to do just that? It'd be nice if wrote some more winning stuff on his CV with us wouldn't it?

[Billy Walker]

Did Lambert & Rodgers have CV's 12 months ago that suggested they were ready to manage in the PL?

No but they had pretty decent track record in managing in a league that is way ahead of the Norwegian league.

Okay, just to play Devil's Advocate, what about the oft-touted David Moyes? Most would say he's a great manager, done wonders at Everton on a budget etc etc. There is also the counter viewpoint that he's the archetypal master of mid-table mediocrity that lacks the ambition to move on and win things elsewhere so sits in his comfort zone doubtless pocketing a seven figure salary annually. He'd be safer pair of hands than McLeech was supposed to have been for sure and would be uber-expensive too, but would he inspire me? No, frankly. He'd be the 'happy just to be in the league' appointment that McLeech was supposed to have been. What have Everton ever done under him? OGS, or someone of his ilk, would be a bold 'sod it let's at least give it a go' appointment with maybe the longer term approach in mind. As Dave said above, it could be a huge disaster, but at least we'd be trying something new and haven't we all wanted the board to do just that?

Did Lambert & Rodgers have CV's 12 months ago that suggested they were ready to manage in the PL?

No but they had pretty decent track record in managing in a league that is way ahead of the Norwegian league.

Okay, just to play Devil's Advocate, what about the oft-touted David Moyes? Most would say he's a great manager, done wonders at Everton on a budget etc etc. There is also the counter viewpoint that he's the archetypal master of mid-table mediocrity that lacks the ambition to move on and win things elsewhere so sits in his comfort zone doubtless pocketing a seven figure salary annually. He'd be safer pair of hands than McLeech was supposed to have been for sure and would be uber-expensive too, but would he inspire me? No, frankly. He'd be the 'happy just to be in the league' appointment that McLeech was supposed to have been. What have Everton ever done under him? OGS, or someone of his ilk, would be a bold 'sod it let's at least give it a go' appointment with maybe the longer term approach in mind. As Dave said above, it could be a huge disaster, but at least we'd be trying something new and haven't we all wanted the board to do just that?

A fair point.

[tomd2103]

Did Lambert & Rodgers have CV's 12 months ago that suggested they were ready to manage in the PL?

No but they had pretty decent track record in managing in a league that is way ahead of the Norwegian league.

Okay, just to play Devil's Advocate, what about the oft-touted David Moyes? Most would say he's a great manager, done wonders at Everton on a budget etc etc. There is also the counter viewpoint that he's the archetypal master of mid-table mediocrity that lacks the ambition to move on and win things elsewhere so sits in his comfort zone doubtless pocketing a seven figure salary annually. He'd be safer pair of hands than McLeech was supposed to have been for sure and would be uber-expensive too, but would he inspire me? No, frankly. He'd be the 'happy just to be in the league' appointment that McLeech was supposed to have been. What have Everton ever done under him? OGS, or someone of his ilk, would be a bold 'sod it let's at least give it a go' appointment with maybe the longer term approach in mind. As Dave said above, it could be a huge disaster, but at least we'd be trying something new and haven't we all wanted the board to do just that?

That's one view of David Moyes, I suppose James.  Another might be that he has constantly got Everton in the top ten season after season (even qualified for the Champions League) with a very small squad and limited budget.  He has bought the likes of Cahill, Jagielka, Lescott from lower league clubs and nurtured them into internationals.  He has brought through quite a few academy players who have gone on to become first-team regulars (including a 16 year-old Wayne Rooney) and has also added a good mix of foreign players into the club.  Whenever it looks like Everton are going struggle, he always seems to find a way to reverse their fortunes.  Look at this season - struggling a little up until January, so he goes and shores up the midfield by signing Gibson from Man Utd, replaces the constantly injured Saha with Jelavic and they finish in 7th. 

I'm sorry, but I would be absolutely delighted if David Moyes arrived at Villa Park.