Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.

[ozzjim]

Wilkins DOF, RDM Head Coach, Clarke Asst.Coach.  Now there's a thought.
Although I keep saying that RDM isn't my first choice, imagining those three working together with Sid and K Mac does make my mouth water.

That would be four coaches. It's more than Bowen's.

I think he wants us to park the bus

If all their responsibilities were properly delineated, Wilkins upstairs overseeing scouting and sorting out contracts etc, Di Matteo and Clarke in charge of the day to day running of the first team, K Mac in charge of the reserves and Sid looking after the Academy I can't see there being a problem. Add to that the idea that when it comes to a football philosophy they all seem to think the same way, it could lead to that smooth progression from promising youngster to fully fledged first team member with out the culture shock that some of our youngsters seemed to experience in the season just finished.

Clarke was with Zola at West Ham wasn't he?

Also, how much do we know about Di Matteo tactically? It is one thing doing it with Chlesea and their players, all motivated to play for an old boy as they fight for their careers at the club, quite another to rebuild the Villa.

[James]

Excellent post Dave, but had anyone else posted it, it would've been locked or merged with a disparaging comment from a mod.

My argument against Rodgers is the same as others. It's what he'll inherit here rather than what he could do given time, because three years he hasn't got, never will have with us fans will he? We need someone to come in and make what he's inherited work immediately, and then build on that. Ergo, Lambert is the obvious choice, not Rodgers. His track record shows failure unless he inherits a set up that suits him, and by Christ the Villa players won't suit him!

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Rodgers would be great. However, as I've said before, the vast majority of Villa fans at games shout abuse at the players. "fucking get it forward" is an example after three passes between the defence to midfield and back again. If you've seen Swansea this year they pass the ball forever before getting anywhere, which according to Rodgers in The Guardian is as much about allowing the players to rest for a minute as you can only rest when you have the ball. I think he'd be a good choice, but I just worry that Villa fans (at games, who I think, on the whole, are different to those who post on here) will not give him the time he needs to change us into a (hopefully) better version of Swansea. Look what happened under GH when players tried passing the ball without always getting somewhere - the fans got on his back. It'd be a tough job for him and one he'd maybe not want the hassle of (though I hope I'm wrong).

Don't underestimate the impact of a year of what we've just watched, though.

I honestly don't think that will change that attitude from the fans.

[pauliewalnuts]

Excellent post Dave, but had anyone else posted it, it would've been locked or merged with a disparaging comment from a mod.

So, who did post it, then?

[The Laughing Policeman]

Ian Holloway = BFR MkII.  It will be lots of fun but you just know that it will end in tears.

[dave.woodhall]

Wilkins DOF, RDM Head Coach, Clarke Asst.Coach.  Now there's a thought.
Although I keep saying that RDM isn't my first choice, imagining those three working together with Sid and K Mac does make my mouth water.

That would be four coaches. It's more than Bowen's.

I think he wants us to park the bus

If all their responsibilities were properly delineated, Wilkins upstairs overseeing scouting and sorting out contracts etc, Di Matteo and Clarke in charge of the day to day running of the first team, K Mac in charge of the reserves and Sid looking after the Academy I can't see there being a problem. Add to that the idea that when it comes to a football philosophy they all seem to think the same way, it could lead to that smooth progression from promising youngster to fully fledged first team member with out the culture shock that some of our youngsters seemed to experience in the season just finished.

so what you do is throw  5 people together, allocate different responsibilities regardless of thier existing positions, history or particular merits. Assume they are all going to slot into this structure you have designed for them and hey presto you have the soloution. yes very good, have you tried Management Consulting?

At least two of those people being demoted and a further two sacked.

[James]

Excellent post Dave, but had anyone else posted it, it would've been locked or merged with a disparaging comment from a mod.

So, who did post it, then?

I'm bloody seeing things! Unreserved apologies people, but I'm still surprised that it hasn't been merged/locked!

[hawkeye]

Wilkins DOF, RDM Head Coach, Clarke Asst.Coach.  Now there's a thought.
Although I keep saying that RDM isn't my first choice, imagining those three working together with Sid and K Mac does make my mouth water.

That would be four coaches. It's more than Bowen's.

I think he wants us to park the bus

If all their responsibilities were properly delineated, Wilkins upstairs overseeing scouting and sorting out contracts etc, Di Matteo and Clarke in charge of the day to day running of the first team, K Mac in charge of the reserves and Sid looking after the Academy I can't see there being a problem. Add to that the idea that when it comes to a football philosophy they all seem to think the same way, it could lead to that smooth progression from promising youngster to fully fledged first team member with out the culture shock that some of our youngsters seemed to experience in the season just finished.

so what you do is throw  5 people together, allocate different responsibilities regardless of thier existing positions, history or particular merits. Assume they are all going to slot into this structure you have designed for them and hey presto you have the soloution. yes very good, have you tried Management Consulting?

At least two of those people being demoted and a further two sacked.

And you wonder why Management Consultants get a bad press.

[ozzjim]

Yeah all the brilliant work done by Tony McAndrew and Bryan Jones goes out the window, Mark Delaney ends up where?

[hawkeye]

Yeah all the brilliant work done by Tony McAndrew and Bryan Jones goes out the window, Mark Delaney ends up where?

They get special projects including lots of bibs and cones action.

[Greg N'Ash]

well that worked well. now neither thread makes sense.

[ozzjim]

Brilliant, sure they will be delighted. Balotelli needs his own bib and cone coach, so maybe we could loan one of them out.


Maybe we have abolished the prem rule and are not even looking at anyone over here. Must be some bloody good, young coaches in other countries. What about France Darren? Or Portugal? Holland?

[The Laughing Policeman]

Wilkins DOF, RDM Head Coach, Clarke Asst.Coach.  Now there's a thought.
Although I keep saying that RDM isn't my first choice, imagining those three working together with Sid and K Mac does make my mouth water.

That would be four coaches. It's more than Bowen's.

I think he wants us to park the bus

If all their responsibilities were properly delineated, Wilkins upstairs overseeing scouting and sorting out contracts etc, Di Matteo and Clarke in charge of the day to day running of the first team, K Mac in charge of the reserves and Sid looking after the Academy I can't see there being a problem. Add to that the idea that when it comes to a football philosophy they all seem to think the same way, it could lead to that smooth progression from promising youngster to fully fledged first team member with out the culture shock that some of our youngsters seemed to experience in the season just finished.

so what you do is throw  5 people together, allocate different responsibilities regardless of thier existing positions, history or particular merits. Assume they are all going to slot into this structure you have designed for them and hey presto you have the soloution. yes very good, have you tried Management Consulting?

If you can't see the connection in the careers of Wilkins and Cowans, Wilkins, Di Matteo and Clarke and add to that the way they all played the game and you still say they are a badly matched bunch. I can only think that you're just looking for an argument.

[hawkeye]

Obviously under the TLP structure Wilkins and his team will need plenty of off site meetings to round off the edges off the new structure, create a think tank experience and involve themselves in out of the box and blue sky thinking whilst strategising and formulating management protocols for the new tomorrow.

[hawkeye]

Wilkins DOF, RDM Head Coach, Clarke Asst.Coach.  Now there's a thought.
Although I keep saying that RDM isn't my first choice, imagining those three working together with Sid and K Mac does make my mouth water.

That would be four coaches. It's more than Bowen's.

I think he wants us to park the bus

If all their responsibilities were properly delineated, Wilkins upstairs overseeing scouting and sorting out contracts etc, Di Matteo and Clarke in charge of the day to day running of the first team, K Mac in charge of the reserves and Sid looking after the Academy I can't see there being a problem. Add to that the idea that when it comes to a football philosophy they all seem to think the same way, it could lead to that smooth progression from promising youngster to fully fledged first team member with out the culture shock that some of our youngsters seemed to experience in the season just finished.

so what you do is throw  5 people together, allocate different responsibilities regardless of thier existing positions, history or particular merits. Assume they are all going to slot into this structure you have designed for them and hey presto you have the soloution. yes very good, have you tried Management Consulting?

If you can't see the connection in the careers of Wilkins and Cowans, Wilkins, Di Matteo and Clarke and add to that the way they all played the game and you still say they are a badly matched bunch. I can only think that you're just looking for an argument.

Not looking for an arguement its just that your original post on the subject does not make any sense.