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Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager?
« Reply #1470 on: May 07, 2012, 11:09:14 PM »
2 of our most succesfull periods have followed relegation but the situation has changed now. For every Newcastle there is a Sheff Wednesday, Forest and a whole bunch of YOYO clubs


well yes but what do you do? Say they bring in curbishley who's shite but mebbe less shite than Mcleish. He's not gonna turn this team into world beaters especially if the purse strings are kept shut. Plus he's got the charisma of a wet weekend. I'd give it till Christmas before the knives are out because too many of our fans are in laa laa land re the team's ability

Offline hawkeye

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager?
« Reply #1471 on: May 07, 2012, 11:09:59 PM »
I seem to recall Curbishly leaving West Ham when the board started selling players he wanted to keep.
Yep the Icelandics, West Ham were hardly pulling up trees but he inherited a bit of a mess.

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager?
« Reply #1472 on: May 07, 2012, 11:10:09 PM »
Lets all hope and pray he is right

Lambert, Martinez, Poyet, Rogers. Any of them would be great. Young, ambitious and done it with players far less fancied than ours.

I'm really, really wary of Next Big Thing managers. I can't remember the last one to do well on the back of moving to a better job after promotion and staying up.

Promotion to top league or just promotion?

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager?
« Reply #1473 on: May 07, 2012, 11:11:09 PM »
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I seem to recall Curbishly leaving West Ham when the board started selling players he wanted to keep.

Didin't he win some sort of constructive dismissal case against them?




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Re: Who do you want as the next manager?
« Reply #1474 on: May 07, 2012, 11:11:54 PM »
Lets all hope and pray he is right

Lambert, Martinez, Poyet, Rogers. Any of them would be great. Young, ambitious and done it with players far less fancied than ours.

I'm really, really wary of Next Big Thing managers. I can't remember the last one to do well on the back of moving to a better job after promotion and staying up.

It is a very decent point. Moyes was probably the last one, or DiMatteo who got Albion up playing good football and then got dumped for Hodgson, but is doing ok now somewhere or another.

But Jewell, Brown, Burley off the top of my head have failed to live up to early promise. Which is why Curbishley is not the horror thought he was BAM (I feel we need to define all our managerial wants to before and after Alex McLeish).

I was a big advocate of Houllier and wanted Benitez last summer due to their track record of winning things mainly, and that Houllier was clearly right with his assessment of the squad. My hope is that one of the young managers brings something more fresh to Villa, and after this season it is a perfect platform for one to do what Moyes has at Everton in fairness.

Even Moyes didn't do the usual NBT thing of promotion to the Premier League one season and staying up the next; he was a lower divisions gamble which paid off. None of us know what Lambert is really capable of, and I think there are potentially better managers out there who would bring a better worldview.

But that would almost certainly mean widening the search to include those without premier league experience now.

Online Dante Lavelli

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager?
« Reply #1475 on: May 07, 2012, 11:12:05 PM »
If McLeish goes or in that matter if anyone is looking for a new manager how can some like Curbishley who has been out of the game so long now ever be considered?
Wasn't his last job poorly managing West Ham?

I think so, but in his defence I’m pretty sure he sued them for constructive dismissal so I think it’s harsh to judge him on his West Ham performance.  Considering the clowns that continually seem to find jobs I wonder who’s cat Curbishley has run over as his record at Charlton was superb.

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager?
« Reply #1476 on: May 07, 2012, 11:12:31 PM »
Lets all hope and pray he is right

Lambert, Martinez, Poyet, Rogers. Any of them would be great. Young, ambitious and done it with players far less fancied than ours.

I'm really, really wary of Next Big Thing managers. I can't remember the last one to do well on the back of moving to a better job after promotion and staying up.

Promotion to top league or just promotion?

Top league.

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager?
« Reply #1477 on: May 07, 2012, 11:13:21 PM »
Lets all hope and pray he is right

Lambert, Martinez, Poyet, Rogers. Any of them would be great. Young, ambitious and done it with players far less fancied than ours.

I'm really, really wary of Next Big Thing managers. I can't remember the last one to do well on the back of moving to a better job after promotion and staying up.

It is a very decent point. Moyes was probably the last one, or DiMatteo who got Albion up playing good football and then got dumped for Hodgson, but is doing ok now somewhere or another.

But Jewell, Brown, Burley off the top of my head have failed to live up to early promise. Which is why Curbishley is not the horror thought he was BAM (I feel we need to define all our managerial wants to before and after Alex McLeish).

I was a big advocate of Houllier and wanted Benitez last summer due to their track record of winning things mainly, and that Houllier was clearly right with his assessment of the squad. My hope is that one of the young managers brings something more fresh to Villa, and after this season it is a perfect platform for one to do what Moyes has at Everton in fairness.

Even Moyes didn't do the usual NBT thing of promotion to the Premier League one season and staying up the next; he was a lower divisions gamble which paid off. None of us know what Lambert is really capable of, and I think there are potentially better managers out there who would bring a better worldview.

But that would almost certainly mean widening the search to include those without premier league experience now.

A mistake that surely to God they've learned from.

Offline villainjock

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager?
« Reply #1478 on: May 07, 2012, 11:13:41 PM »
i think we should have a campaign to appoint hughton as our new manager, that would shut shearer, merse and the rest of the dickheads up. i actually think he would be a good choice and available for nowt, perfect for us.

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager?
« Reply #1479 on: May 07, 2012, 11:14:16 PM »
Wiki says he did indeed win a few bob, he left nearly 4 years ago, Hoddle hasn't worked for five

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager?
« Reply #1480 on: May 07, 2012, 11:14:22 PM »
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I seem to recall Curbishly leaving West Ham when the board started selling players he wanted to keep.

Didin't he win some sort of constructive dismissal case against them?
If our own experience in that area is anything to go by we can probably assume that it was nothing more than a club that could be arsed to waste time and money in court pandering to a shyster's litigiousness.

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager?
« Reply #1481 on: May 07, 2012, 11:14:29 PM »
I wouldn't bank on it.

Offline hawkeye

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager?
« Reply #1482 on: May 07, 2012, 11:16:38 PM »
2 of our most succesfull periods have followed relegation but the situation has changed now. For every Newcastle there is a Sheff Wednesday, Forest and a whole bunch of YOYO clubs


well yes but what do you do? Say they bring in curbishley who's shite but mebbe less shite than Mcleish. He's not gonna turn this team into world beaters especially if the purse strings are kept shut. Plus he's got the charisma of a wet weekend. I'd give it till Christmas before the knives are out because too many of our fans are in laa laa land re the team's ability
The problem with keeping him until Christmas is that he will have spent  whatever money RL has made available. Our 2 worst outfield players are Hutton and Nzogbia so not a lot of reason to give him more cash. The Villa fans I speak to have pretty moderate expectations, they just dont believe we should be relegation candidates and I agree, we shouldnt.

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager?
« Reply #1483 on: May 07, 2012, 11:19:00 PM »
Lets all hope and pray he is right

Lambert, Martinez, Poyet, Rogers. Any of them would be great. Young, ambitious and done it with players far less fancied than ours.

I'm really, really wary of Next Big Thing managers. I can't remember the last one to do well on the back of moving to a better job after promotion and staying up.

It is a very decent point. Moyes was probably the last one, or DiMatteo who got Albion up playing good football and then got dumped for Hodgson, but is doing ok now somewhere or another.

But Jewell, Brown, Burley off the top of my head have failed to live up to early promise. Which is why Curbishley is not the horror thought he was BAM (I feel we need to define all our managerial wants to before and after Alex McLeish).

I was a big advocate of Houllier and wanted Benitez last summer due to their track record of winning things mainly, and that Houllier was clearly right with his assessment of the squad. My hope is that one of the young managers brings something more fresh to Villa, and after this season it is a perfect platform for one to do what Moyes has at Everton in fairness.

Even Moyes didn't do the usual NBT thing of promotion to the Premier League one season and staying up the next; he was a lower divisions gamble which paid off. None of us know what Lambert is really capable of, and I think there are potentially better managers out there who would bring a better worldview.

But that would almost certainly mean widening the search to include those without premier league experience now.

A mistake that surely to God they've learned from.

They have not fired their last mistake yet, so hoping they have learned something from the process of making that error is grasping for a rope that might never swing your way.

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager?
« Reply #1484 on: May 07, 2012, 11:19:33 PM »
Lets all hope and pray he is right

Lambert, Martinez, Poyet, Rogers. Any of them would be great. Young, ambitious and done it with players far less fancied than ours.

I'm really, really wary of Next Big Thing managers. I can't remember the last one to do well on the back of moving to a better job after promotion and staying up.

It is a very decent point. Moyes was probably the last one, or DiMatteo who got Albion up playing good football and then got dumped for Hodgson, but is doing ok now somewhere or another.

But Jewell, Brown, Burley off the top of my head have failed to live up to early promise. Which is why Curbishley is not the horror thought he was BAM (I feel we need to define all our managerial wants to before and after Alex McLeish).

I was a big advocate of Houllier and wanted Benitez last summer due to their track record of winning things mainly, and that Houllier was clearly right with his assessment of the squad. My hope is that one of the young managers brings something more fresh to Villa, and after this season it is a perfect platform for one to do what Moyes has at Everton in fairness.

Ozz - Houllier was brought to Liverpool to win The League. He failed despite enormous spending and he got sacked after 4 attempts. He inhertied his best players and bought 4 keepers to  replace Friedel. He was awful as French coach, rode on the back of LeGuen's success at Lyon and backed Domenech 2008-2010.

He came in told the players they were not that good and needed to train more and play different football. That is OK if you are bottom six, not Top6,  and basically took us to a relegation scrap because he hired a non Villa Stooge.

 


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