Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.

[Risso]

Well at least Laursen is leaning his trade at the bottom with some crap Danish 2nd division outfit.  Probably a much better grounding than being parachuted straight into the Premier League.

[Concrete John]

We have good coaches in place and we need a DOF type figure anyway.  So, with both of those taken into account, I think someone like Laursen makes sense as a figurehead and motivational figure.

[pauliewalnuts]

Guardiola, with all due respect to our youngsters, had a whole different calibre of player available.

cause he did,
 i'm not calling for Laursen, just saying that the right man isnt always the one that ticks all the boxes

What boxes? It's same when the Geordies wanted Shearer in charge. We need a manger based on ability / track record - not an emotional one. As said get him in as coach, for a few years time to be a potential manager.

Agree with this.

It's too easy to go for the emotional option, and the Shearer example is a very good one.

[PaulWinch again]

I've always been against giving the job of manager to a popular ex-player, because it smacks of desperation, and doesn't take into any account their actual ability for the job.  However, McLeish has done such a spectacularly awful job that it's hard to imagine ANYBODY doing a worse job, and at least sombody like Laursen would stand a chance of having everybody unite behind him.

Precisely, Mcleish's ineptitude has made it a much easier job for whoever follows him.

[DB]

Well at least Laursen is leaning his trade at the bottom with some crap Danish 2nd division outfit.  Probably a much better grounding than being parachuted straight into the Premier League.

Exactly, one for a few years time.

[john e]

I've always been against giving the job of manager to a popular ex-player, because it smacks of desperation, and doesn't take into any account their actual ability for the job.  However, McLeish has done such a spectacularly awful job that it's hard to imagine ANYBODY doing a worse job, and at least sombody like Laursen would stand a chance of having everybody unite behind him.

Precisely, Mcleish's ineptitude has made it a much easier job for whoever follows him.

it was a cunning plan

[eastie]

I've always been against giving the job of manager to a popular ex-player, because it smacks of desperation, and doesn't take into any account their actual ability for the job.  However, McLeish has done such a spectacularly awful job that it's hard to imagine ANYBODY doing a worse job, and at least sombody like Laursen would stand a chance of having everybody unite behind him.

Precisely, Mcleish's ineptitude has made it a much easier job for whoever follows him.

it was a cunning plan

Always suspected a cunning stunt or something similar in mcleishs case.

[fredm]

We have good coaches in place and we need a DOF type figure anyway.  So, with both of those taken into account, I think someone like Laursen makes sense as a figurehead and motivational figure.

If we have such good coaches in place why has the football we have been witnessing, not just this season but preceding seasons also, been so god damn awful?

And please, don't say it is all due to the manager, surely coaches are there to tell people how to pass and move, how to move at throw ins etc. etc. etc.

[Concrete John]

We have good coaches in place and we need a DOF type figure anyway.  So, with both of those taken into account, I think someone like Laursen makes sense as a figurehead and motivational figure.

If we have such good coaches in place why has the football we have been witnessing, not just this season but preceding seasons also, been so god damn awful?

And please, don't say it is all due to the manager, surely coaches are there to tell people how to pass and move, how to move at throw ins etc. etc. etc.

The coaches we have now, Sid and K-Mac, did not have any 1st team duties under MON.  The football was a lot better under GH, even if the results weren't there.  Look at our youth and reserve sides to see what they are coaching into players when they have the freedom.

[fredm]

We have good coaches in place and we need a DOF type figure anyway.  So, with both of those taken into account, I think someone like Laursen makes sense as a figurehead and motivational figure.

If we have such good coaches in place why has the football we have been witnessing, not just this season but preceding seasons also, been so god damn awful?

And please, don't say it is all due to the manager, surely coaches are there to tell people how to pass and move, how to move at throw ins etc. etc. etc.

The coaches we have now, Sid and K-Mac, did not have any 1st team duties under MON.  The football was a lot better under GH, even if the results weren't there.  Look at our youth and reserve sides to see what they are coaching into players when they have the freedom.

Sorry John, when you say "they have the freedom" do you mean the coaches, so they can coach how they wish, or players, who can play with freedom in the youth/reserves?

If it is the latter, then if they do not have the mental application to be able to transfer their ability in the youth/reserves onto the first team stage, then they will never hold down a first team spot.  Maybe it is this mental application that has prevented the numerous "hopes" in the past to achieve this goal?  Maybe our coaches do not instill this mental toughness into them during their formative years?  Perhaps our coaches are "too nice"?

[James]

Guardiola, with all due respect to our youngsters, had a whole different calibre of player available.

cause he did,
 i'm not calling for Laursen, just saying that the right man isnt always the one that ticks all the boxes

What boxes? It's same when the Geordies wanted Shearer in charge. We need a manger based on ability / track record - not an emotional one. As said get him in as coach, for a few years time to be a potential manager.

Agree with this.

It's too easy to go for the emotional option, and the Shearer example is a very good one.

Kenny Dalgliesh (when first appointed) would be another good example, no?

[Concrete John]

Sorry John, when you say "they have the freedom" do you mean the coaches, so they can coach how they wish, or players, who can play with freedom in the youth/reserves?

If it is the latter, then if they do not have the mental application to be able to transfer their ability in the youth/reserves onto the first team stage, then they will never hold down a first team spot.  Maybe it is this mental application that has prevented the numerous "hopes" in the past to achieve this goal?  Maybe our coaches do not instill this mental toughness into them during their formative years?  Perhaps our coaches are "too nice"?

What I mean is the expansive way they reach them to play in the reserves/youth is stifled by more defensive tactics in the first team.

I totally disagree that it's about their mental application to transfer it up a level into the first team.

The question is would they be good enough to play that way successfully in the PL?

[NiiLamptey]

I just cant help but feel, Randy et al should not have messed with us last Summer...

We had started getting results under Mcallister even with GH in hospital, and the football was getting better...

If he didnt have a sensible optioned lined up why didnt he keep GH in a Back Seat / DOF role and either use KMAC or Mcallister to manage the team?

Not that its a long term solution just something until we had a sensible long term solution lined up...

At the time it seemed like Randy had lined up Hughes, so made sense but then he was out of the running, benitez wanted money to spend randy wouldnt give him and we got were stuck with no manager and not a great deal of options.... Enters McLueless

Just feel a common sense approach could of avoided all this...

[not3bad]

Well at least Laursen is leaning his trade at the bottom with some crap Danish 2nd division outfit.  Probably a much better grounding than being parachuted straight into the Premier League.

Exactly, one for a few years time.

Thirded

[john e]

Guardiola, with all due respect to our youngsters, had a whole different calibre of player available.

cause he did,
 i'm not calling for Laursen, just saying that the right man isnt always the one that ticks all the boxes

What boxes? It's same when the Geordies wanted Shearer in charge. We need a manger based on ability / track record - not an emotional one. As said get him in as coach, for a few years time to be a potential manager.

Woy at Wets Bwom for me.

well,the boxes you just mentioned,
 ability and track record, when Guardiola started his ability was unknown and he had no track record,
i'm sure the Barca supporters were on their version of H+V complaining they had a great group of players coming on, and they were going to give them to a chap with no experience and was mates with them all,

he didnt tick many boxes. but was still the right man