Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.

[PaulWinch again]

I think it's pretty clear that most people just want to be entertained, which seems obvious but has been overlooked by the club. Mcleish will never ever entertain, it's not what he does. If we don't have the finances to compete at the very top, we can at least be palatable to watch. At the moment not only do we get terrible results, we're also mind numbingly bad to watch. People want to be entertained, and if the board want season ticket, merchandise, game day ticket sales etc. They need to hire a manager who can offer that to us.

[TonyD]

Maybe it's all a cunning ploy.  Give the job to McLeish, a manager so pant-wettingly awful that any decision they make after that will seem brilliant.  Just as any future striker will do compared to Emile Heskey.

It could be just that. But maybe AM and Heskey are just to soften us up before the real horror starts.

[TimTheVillain]

Maybe it's all a cunning ploy.  Give the job to McLeish, a manager so pant-wettingly awful that any decision they make after that will seem brilliant.  Just as any future striker will do compared to Emile Heskey.

It could be just that. But maybe AM and Heskey are just to soften us up before the real horror starts.

Ha ha

I'm sure Heskey has a pay if fit clause in his contract, what other Prem club would play him ?

I'd absolutely love Rodgers to take Villa on, he'd have a big project in front of him, but he's proved that he can get non world beating players to play the game properly as a team.

He could transform Villa given a few years.

Of course, there are many in our current squad who'd just have to go, and barry Bannan would love it, playing football as opposed to hitandhopeball.

Dream on

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I think it's pretty clear that most people just want to be entertained, which seems obvious but has been overlooked by the club. Mcleish will never ever entertain, it's not what he does. If we don't have the finances to compete at the very top, we can at least be palatable to watch. At the moment not only do we get terrible results, we're also mind numbingly bad to watch. People want to be entertained, and if the board want season ticket, merchandise, game day ticket sales etc. They need to hire a manager who can offer that to us.

Summed up perfectly.

Are we really asking too much?

[not3bad]

We don't expect/ demand top 6 anymore, nevermind top 4, so a manager trying to do the right things will be given time IMO.  I can accept a few seasons of mid table football, if our games start to become even vaguely entertaining sometimes, and don't make me want to spoon my own eyeballs out.

This.  Some entertainment, and, as has already been said, some gonads.

[arnie66]

What brought the issue of Villa becoming a negative dour and frankly boring team to watch home to me was the game against Swansea.......I thought that it was a breath of fresh air watching their passing, movement and ball retention. 

No superstars or overpaid prima donnas....just a hardworking team trying to entertain

That's all i want to see every week

Not too much to ask is it ??

So keeping to the title of the threat.....Brendan Rogers for me please

[mrfuse]

I think it's pretty clear that most people just want to be entertained, which seems obvious but has been overlooked by the club. Mcleish will never ever entertain, it's not what he does. If we don't have the finances to compete at the very top, we can at least be palatable to watch. At the moment not only do we get terrible results, we're also mind numbingly bad to watch. People want to be entertained, and if the board want season ticket, merchandise, game day ticket sales etc. They need to hire a manager who can offer that to us.

Totally agree which is why It makes me sick to currently watch villa, its not the results or the players its the style or lack of if it.
It takes courage to play good football even when things are not going well but you have to stick at it especially if you don't have big money to spend its the only way forward for us.
The next manager has to be a young manager with fresh ideas who can make a back 4 play football at whatever the cost and all the way through the Club the same commitment to play that style.

Really the country should get rid of Managers like McLeish, Bruce and McCarthy and many of the same ilk if we want to compete with other leagues. Those type of managers belong in rugby league not the football league
Im sure somewhere in these managers minds theirs a want to entertain but at the first sign of trouble they revert to form. In McLeish's case he whimpers out before a ball is even kicked.
If we do get the right manager then a lot of patience is required from ourselves as fans its a long process and everyone has to sign up to it. The right minded footballer has to be scouted and that doesn't have to be necessarily an expensive one it has to be someone that can be molded or to fit into a system.

At first it will be tough, defenders will make mistakes playing the ball out from the back and it might also be not very entertaining. It may look like were unwilling to attack, their will be calls to get it up field into the mixer etc.

After watching the football we've been offered up this season surely the majority of fans can sacrifice a bit of goal action ...not that we've had a lot of that either for possession of the ball!

[Boz]

Gus Poyet for me has the hunger played at top level, When Brighton came to VP in the cup a few years back he had them well set up and they kept their shape also caused us a few problems.Has the South American passing and movement experience and will come with no pre conceived problems of managing Villa.Like Martinez he has plied his managerial trade at the lower leagues and now is the time to step up to the plate.Be bold Villa and take a chance Rodgers is an exciting young manager but his stint at Watford was nothing to shout about.

IMO, I'd prefer Poyet over Rodgers, as apart from Swansea, he was distinctly average.

[Concrete John]

After the negativity that has swamped the support with the current encumbent, the next manager will start from a pretty good position - all that "he's not McLeish" stuff is going to guarantee a certain amount of goodwill.

See, I'm not convinced of that.

A new manager coming in will get a bit of time, but if results are poor the discussions on here will go something like this:-

"He needs time."

"We said that about McLeish."

"But he has a better track record than him."

"Not greatly and we've seen nothing from his Villa side to suggest we're on the right track."

"At least things are better than last season."

"Beign better than McTwat is no claim to fame.  We're Villa and we deserve better.  Randy has fucked up again"

If you look at the transfer thread, any new player being better than Heskey does not bring universal acceptance, which I think we'll see similar to if/when we get a new manager.

[NeilH]

After the negativity that has swamped the support with the current encumbent, the next manager will start from a pretty good position - all that "he's not McLeish" stuff is going to guarantee a certain amount of goodwill.

See, I'm not convinced of that.

A new manager coming in will get a bit of time, but if results are poor the discussions on here will go something like this:-

"He needs time."

"We said that about McLeish."

"But he has a better track record than him."

"Not greatly and we've seen nothing from his Villa side to suggest we're on the right track."

"At least things are better than last season."

"Beign better than McTwat is no claim to fame.  We're Villa and we deserve better.  Randy has fucked up again"

If you look at the transfer thread, any new player being better than Heskey does not bring universal acceptance, which I think we'll see similar to if/when we get a new manager.

I have to say that I agree. It did not take us long to turn on Houllier and in fact some of the venom on here was quite strong. Every Villa manager gets a honeymoon period, but it does not take long for the restless masses to errrr become restless.

[Risso]

That's because Houllier was another crap appointment.

[DR PETERS]

The names being mentioned just shows how far we have fallen since that horrible little man walked out on us.
I don't know who I would want but we should not be looking at Martinez (relegation battle every year), Rodgers (not convinced - yet), Lambert (see Rodgers).
Lets get one thing straight all those people saying we should appoint this man or that man because the football would be great ask yourself this, if we played a great passing game like Barcelona but were still 15th would people would still be moaning, its all about results, if we had won 10 of our 14 draws then we would be on 55 and knocking on the door of the champions league. Now before anyone jumps on me I don't think McLeish is or ever was the man for the job because he is a poor man manager nothing to do with his style of play but the fact that he clearly can't get the players to stick to the plan. If he had instilled a never say die attitude then the style of play would not be highlighted as much

Now the problem we have is that Randy has already put £200M into the club and we have not made the champions league, the landscape has also changed, like it or not unless he is prepared to spend the same amount again we are only ever going to finish between 8-15 regardless of who the manager is. Sad but true.

[Concrete John]

Lets get one thing straight all those people saying we should appoint this man or that man because the football would be great ask yourself this, if we played a great passing game like Barcelona but were still 15th would people would still be moaning, its all about results

Fully agree.

I remember us all laughing as WBA passed their way into the Championship.

[SheffieldVillain]

Now the problem we have is that Randy has already put £200M into the club and we have not made the champions league, the landscape has also changed, like it or not unless he is prepared to spend the same amount again we are only ever going to finish between 8-15 regardless of who the manager is. Sad but true.

I don't think that is true though. Newcastle haven't had a huge amount of money ploughed into them, in fact quite the opposite. They sold that lumbering carthorse Carroll for an obscene amount of money and didn't spend it all. What they did have was a plan, a pre-determined style of play and a scouting network.

Tottenham are in free-fall, Arsenal are consistently inconsistent over the course of a season, Chelsea have had a crap season and will probably change most of their squad over the summer and Liverpool are making a one-club effort to buy every overpriced, average British player available. A place with the big boys was there for the taking this season.

[NeilH]

If he goes then we really do need a safe pair of hands to steady the ship, someone like Curbs for example. His appointment would not be an inspired one, but it would at least steady thing down after a couple of years of total turmoil.

It would of course be a real shame, as I think that there is decent talent out there right now if we are prepared to cast our net outside England. Over here for example we have De Boer at Ajax, Verbeek (Rod Hull lookalike) at AZ doing outstanding jobs. Hell even Koeman has exceeded all expectations and elevated Feyenoord back into Champs League contention.