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Offline Ad@m

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #585 on: April 21, 2012, 05:44:08 PM »
Nah, Gardner being given his marching orders was the highlight.

There was a rendition of "Martin, you're a twat" as well. He apologised for the timing of his resignation in the post-match interview he gave to 5live too.

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #586 on: April 21, 2012, 05:56:10 PM »
Nah, Gardner being given his marching orders was the highlight.

There was a rendition of "Martin, you're a twat" as well. He apologised for the timing of his resignation in the post-match interview he gave to 5live too.

did Gardner have a support Stan tshirt on when departing ?

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #587 on: April 21, 2012, 05:57:20 PM »
Nah, Gardner being given his marching orders was the highlight.

There was a rendition of "Martin, you're a twat" as well. He apologised for the timing of his resignation in the post-match interview he gave to 5live too.

did Gardner have a support Stan tshirt on when departing ?

No idea. I could only see his back from my seat in the Holte.

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #588 on: April 21, 2012, 06:00:00 PM »
Nah, Gardner being given his marching orders was the highlight.

There was a rendition of "Martin, you're a twat" as well. He apologised for the timing of his resignation in the post-match interview he gave to 5live too.

did Gardner have a support Stan tshirt on when departing ?

No idea. I could only see his back from my seat in the Holte.

i tink he got some applause from near the tunnel as he walked off and he responded

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #589 on: April 21, 2012, 06:03:33 PM »
It was finally good to hear him apologise for the timing of his departure. Now he needs to apologise for Moscow to me personally!

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #590 on: April 21, 2012, 06:20:21 PM »
The real arguement came down to the Milner transfer, not exactly news but he insisted that he could use the Milner money, he recorded every conversation with Faulkner and Lerner and of course they were not quite as meticulous as MON and that is why they settled. one set of lawyers had a complete dossier, the other set had virtualy nothing because RL and Faulkner did not bother to take notes. MON maintains that he has the goods on Lerner and Faulkner but he signed away his right to publish for 5 years. He will complete his Biography and then the MON version of the truth will be out.

If that is anything near the truth & I suspect it is, it shows MON was preparing an exit in advance. Once he'd got his proof for the constructive dismissal case, he triggered the exit, the fact that the timing delivered the most disruption possible was an added bonus.  It was rumored around February that he was preparing to walk, if he was unhappy he could of just walked.

As it was he won on all counts;
1. Leaves with managerial reputation intact
2. Is vindicated in court by constructive dismissal claim
3. Gets paid while he watches us fall apart.
4. Gets another job where the process starts again, Sunderland be warned.

 


Doesn't ring true to me. If it was then Lerner and Co would be well within their rights to broadcast the tricks he was up to. What sort of chairman would employ a manager who tapes private telephone conversations?

Recording conversations is grounds for dismissal where I work.

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #591 on: April 21, 2012, 06:28:04 PM »
From a BBC reporter

Quote
Ivan Gaskell ‏ @IvanGaskell1 
#Avfc 0 #safc 0 Martin Oneill:"The booing was a sideshow in the gr8 scheme of things. I left this club in gr8 shape, with gr8 players"
19m Ivan Gaskell ‏ @IvanGaskell1
#Avfc 0 #safc Martin Oneill:" Villa fans haven't heard the full story behind me leaving,I didn't leave them in the lurch,but in gr8 shape"

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #592 on: April 21, 2012, 06:33:00 PM »
No. He left us in the shit. Nevermind the lurch.

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #593 on: April 21, 2012, 06:34:44 PM »
I thought he sounded like a scolded schoolboy in that interview

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #594 on: April 21, 2012, 06:36:07 PM »
In great shape? Did you fuck, pubehead.

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #595 on: April 21, 2012, 06:54:33 PM »
Ye
Nah, Gardner being given his marching orders was the highlight.

There was a rendition of "Martin, you're a twat" as well. He apologised for the timing of his resignation in the post-match interview he gave to 5live too.

did Gardner have a support Stan tshirt on when departing ?
Yes he did, it seemed like he had it planned, my standing up V signs swiftly turned into clapping him off for his gesture of support.

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #596 on: April 21, 2012, 06:59:33 PM »
It was planned for a goal celebration. Which would have been interesting.

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #597 on: April 21, 2012, 07:07:04 PM »
The real arguement came down to the Milner transfer, not exactly news but he insisted that he could use the Milner money, he recorded every conversation with Faulkner and Lerner and of course they were not quite as meticulous as MON and that is why they settled. one set of lawyers had a complete dossier, the other set had virtualy nothing because RL and Faulkner did not bother to take notes. MON maintains that he has the goods on Lerner and Faulkner but he signed away his right to publish for 5 years. He will complete his Biography and then the MON version of the truth will be out.

If that is anything near the truth & I suspect it is, it shows MON was preparing an exit in advance. Once he'd got his proof for the constructive dismissal case, he triggered the exit, the fact that the timing delivered the most disruption possible was an added bonus.  It was rumored around February that he was preparing to walk, if he was unhappy he could of just walked.

As it was he won on all counts;
1. Leaves with managerial reputation intact
2. Is vindicated in court by constructive dismissal claim
3. Gets paid while he watches us fall apart.
4. Gets another job where the process starts again, Sunderland be warned.

 


Doesn't ring true to me. If it was then Lerner and Co would be well within their rights to broadcast the tricks he was up to. What sort of chairman would employ a manager who tapes private telephone conversations?

Recording conversations is grounds for dismissal where I work.

I reckon by recording they mean that he took notes of meetings. Contemperaneous notes are seen as documents which carry a fair bit of weight. I dont think he was there with microphones hidden under the lamps

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #598 on: April 21, 2012, 07:27:43 PM »
Yes, funny one Craig getting sent off, when he showed the shirt I was in two minds whether to carry on my gesticulations but I got it together and decided on 'fair play you blue nosed ******, now get to fuck aaaaaaarrrrrrggggghhhhhh'

I hope I did the right thing?

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Re: Return of O'Neill - divided opinion
« Reply #599 on: April 21, 2012, 07:48:50 PM »
As I mentioned on the post-match thread he couldn't resist getting a bit of self-promotion in on the Villa related questions on the Sky interview.

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,18305_7690532,00.html

 


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