Return of O'Neill - divided opinion

[stubbsyandy]

"Big Fat Ron's Claret n Blue Army" going throughout the game would put them both in their place, and "Brian Little walks on water".

Although it's probably more important we all just get behind our young lads on the pitch.

I agree that we should put all our effort into getting right behind the lads on the pitch, we need to be positive not negative and get the best out of our team.

[GarTomas]

I honestly don't think I really care.

Yes O'Neill got us 3 consecutive seasons I've finishing 6 (this sounds less impressive than top 6 in my opinion) but spent an excessive amount of money doing so.  We are now struggling along with the legacy of his overpaid squad and a bunch of talented younger players who have seen so much upheaval over the last 2 years don't know what they are supposed to be doing.

The fact that an average player like Collins reportedly is a non-starter to join Swansea as he won't halve his salary speaks volumes.

[Rick_avfc]

Right, so there is a lot of talk about whether MON was successful in his case against wrongful dismissal from AVFC.  James Nursey has tweeted the following link which is barrister who acted on before on MON in the case. 

http://bit.ly/JnrVl4

Claims they were successful in MON's wrongful dismissal case

[Rick_avfc]

He even helped out McClueless with his resignation from blues

[Merv]

I see in the 10-11 season he acted for MON, McLeish and Houllier. He must love the Villa.

[Rick_avfc]

I see in the 10-11 season he acted for MON, McLeish and Houllier. He must love the Villa.

His probably light up when villa are involved in anything

[glasses]

Wrongful dismissal. Does that = sacked?

[Rick_avfc]

Wrongful dismissal. Does that = sacked?

You would think he was if this barrister is claiming it on his website

[pauliewalnuts]

Successfully acted for = got a settlement for, which he did.

[Rick_avfc]

Successfully acted for = got a settlement for, which he did.

Wrongful dismissal claim

[pauliewalnuts]

Successfully acted for = got a settlement for, which he did.

Wrongful dismissal claim

And? I'm saying he got a settlement which can be seen as a "result". It doesn't mean "you drove me out of my job".

He wasn't even sacked, so it's hard to see how he can claim wrongful dismissal.

[Richard E]

If you resign because your employer is in fundamental breach of your contract (which would include unwritten terms as to trust and confidence) this counts in law as a dismissal so you can bring a wrongful dismissal claim even if you have resigned.

This does not mean that this is necessarily what happened in this case.

On the assumption that some money went from AVFC to MON I think his lawyer is entitled to count that as a success. As I understand it the Tribunal did not find in his favour. The case settled part way through which may or may not suggest an  indication had been given as to which way the wind was blowing...   

[Rick_avfc]

If you resign because your employer is in fundamental breach of your contract (which would include unwritten terms as to trust and confidence) this counts in law as a dismissal so you can bring a wrongful dismissal claim even if you have resigned.

This does not mean that this is necessarily what happened in this case.

On the assumption that some money went from AVFC to MON I think his lawyer is entitled to count that as a success. As I understand it the Tribunal did not find in his favour. The case settled part way through which may or may not suggest an  indication had been given as to which way the wind was blowing...

That makes sense hence why this guy is saying they were successful in the wrongful dismissal case.

[pauliewalnuts]

If you resign because your employer is in fundamental breach of your contract (which would include unwritten terms as to trust and confidence) this counts in law as a dismissal so you can bring a wrongful dismissal claim even if you have resigned.

This does not mean that this is necessarily what happened in this case.

On the assumption that some money went from AVFC to MON I think his lawyer is entitled to count that as a success. As I understand it the Tribunal did not find in his favour. The case settled part way through which may or may not suggest an  indication had been given as to which way the wind was blowing...

That makes sense hence why this guy is saying they were successful in the wrongful dismissal case.

So, you're ignoring the bit in the last paragraph? Right.

Incidentally, I wonder what the argued contractual clause was, and whether it's something which would make those supportive of him think twice if they knew what it was about.

*taps nose*

[Californian Villain]

If you resign because your employer is in fundamental breach of your contract (which would include unwritten terms as to trust and confidence) this counts in law as a dismissal so you can bring a wrongful dismissal claim even if you have resigned.

This does not mean that this is necessarily what happened in this case.

On the assumption that some money went from AVFC to MON I think his lawyer is entitled to count that as a success. As I understand it the Tribunal did not find in his favour. The case settled part way through which may or may not suggest an  indication had been given as to which way the wind was blowing...

That makes sense hence why this guy is saying they were successful in the wrongful dismissal case.

So, you're ignoring the bit in the last paragraph? Right.

Incidentally, I wonder what the argued contractual clause was, and whether it's something which would make those supportive of him think twice if they knew what it was about.

*taps nose*

Apart from the folks present at the case hearing (the top people at the club, MON, MON's  lawyers etc), nobody knows for sure....however, settling in MON's favor part way through the hearing implies the club either thought they would lose, or decided to keep the "key issue" secret for fear of damaging the club's reputation.