When will the bullet come?

[hawkeye]

Mcliesh will point to the fact that he has lost Petrov, Bent, Dunne, Nzogbia, Hutton, Clarke, and lets be honest most of these players would either play or be contributing if available. We know that he should have achieved far more when he had these players available. Now we go into the run in with a very young and inexpierenced squad desperate for points.

[cheltenhamlion]

Getting turned over by Bolton will make little difference to whether he is in charge against Sunderland...

[KevinGage]

Aye, just rechecked the fixtures. 

Maybe seeing the back of him by the Sunderland game is a little optimistic alright, as I don't think a drubbing at Old Trafford would have much of a bearing.   Keeping the score to within 2/3 of them might even be acclaimed as a success by the miserable wretch.

What odds a bizarre and cackhanded change of jockey going into the Tottingham/ Norwich games then?   

[eastie]

I remember thinking what a poor choice Martinez was and was glad when he turned us down, although in fairness i had no idea who they had lined up next.

Martinez would have been a flop- it just shows faulkner and lerner are clueless when searching for a manager- although who would want the job with those clowns running the club down .

[Mister E]

The only thing that could give the club a lift would be to sack him now. I think it would galvanise the support and get everybody behind the club. Enough is enough.

In desperation, I sadly think you're right.

[Mister E]

Mcliesh will point to the fact that he has lost Petrov, Bent, Dunne, Nzogbia, Hutton, Clarke, and lets be honest most of these players would either play or be contributing if available. We know that he should have achieved far more when he had these players available. Now we go into the run in with a very young and inexpierenced squad desperate for points.

You're right that this would be the excuse. The fact is, with these playeres we've still got ourselves where we are.
They're operating in a crap system with the wrong management team 'guiding' them.

[Clampy]

I remember thinking what a poor choice Martinez was and was glad when he turned us down, although in fairness i had no idea who they had lined up next.

Martinez would have been a flop- it just shows faulkner and lerner are clueless when searching for a manager- although who would want the job with those clowns running the club down .

My original point (which i did'nt make very well) was that Martinez might have been an inspired choice. Bearing in mind his Wigan side are only 5 points behind us shows what a crap job McLeish has done.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

"And whatever Birmingham are asking in compensation will be money well spent.  This guy is the new David Moyes!"

Who came out with that gem?

[DB]

Mcliesh will point to the fact that he has lost Petrov, Bent, Dunne, Nzogbia, Hutton, Clarke, and lets be honest most of these players would either play or be contributing if available. We know that he should have achieved far more when he had these players available. Now we go into the run in with a very young and inexpierenced squad desperate for points.

You're right that this would be the excuse. The fact is, with these playeres we've still got ourselves where we are.
They're operating in a crap system with the wrong management team 'guiding' them.

Yep, we've been crap all season, injuries have only been a factor last couple of weeks. It worries me that he will use it as an excuse the deeper in the sh*t we get - to those higher in the club.

[VillaAlways]

Well if Lerner et al can't see through that, they really deserve everything they get
Lerner reminds me of General Lasard in Police Academy more and more by the day. Absolutely clueless at what's going on around him

[timeoutbigbar]

Option 3.  He's going nowhere.  Proud history, relegation fodder.

[Small Rodent]

Mcliesh will point to the fact that he has lost Petrov, Bent, Dunne, Nzogbia, Hutton, Clarke, and lets be honest most of these players would either play or be contributing if available. We know that he should have achieved far more when he had these players available. Now we go into the run in with a very young and inexpierenced squad desperate for points.

You're right that this would be the excuse. The fact is, with these playeres we've still got ourselves where we are.
They're operating in a crap system with the wrong management team 'guiding' them.

Yep, we've been crap all season, injuries have only been a factor last couple of weeks. It worries me that he will use it as an excuse the deeper in the sh*t we get - to those higher in the club.

I can't help thinking that our few wins have been despite McLeish's input as manager, rather as a result of his input.

Probably unfait, but I can't help thinking it.

[ktvillan]

I sincerely doubt he will go if we stay up.

Sadly I don't think they will sack him even if we lose every game and go down.  They've probably already factored into his appointment that if he takes us down, he has experience of bouncing straight back without spending much.  They might sack him if it looks like we won't bounce straight back up next season.

I still can't get my head around the idiocy, nay insanity,  of going out and headhunting a proven, known failure at huge expense.  If they're stupid enough to have done that, they're stupid enough to keep him.

[eastie]

Lerner is in the country so lets hope he finally shows some balls and fires both faulkner and mcleish before its too late!

[VillaAlways]

I sincerely doubt he will go if we stay up.

Sadly I don't think they will sack him even if we lose every game and go down.  They've probably already factored into his appointment that if he takes us down, he has experience of bouncing straight back without spending much.  They might sack him if it looks like we won't bounce straight back up next season.

I can't possibly believe for one moment,that when they employed him they considered  a possibility he would take us down with the squad we had.No way will they have factored relegation into the equation