When will the bullet come?

[PaulTheVillan]

He won't.

[Mister E]

McLeish was appointed on the basis that his teams are hard to beat. My guess is Lerner thought he'd get a solid if unspectacular manager to steady the ship while he tightened the finances, then in a couple of years he could appoint a better manager once all is well at the club.

Pretty much how I viewed the appointment at the time.

A ship-steadier who would work within the restrictions passed down.

Well, your perception may be right but if you look at his record at the Sty it steradied the ship; on a downwards trajectory. Take a look at the goals-against average which really was not very good.

I do think your phrase "would work within the restrictions passed down" does about nail the reason for the appointment.

[Hookeysmith]

Behind the dug out fans are shouting "Sit down you twat you hav'nt got a clue"

I was wondering whether he'd be getting stick like that from the fans behind him.

He now has his own sevurity person and stewards that sit between fans and the dug out - someone actually threw a season ticket on the pitch at the end of the game.
I actually dont like the personal abuse and swearing thrown his way - i think it should be whole sections of the crowd singing "Mc out etc"  if it is isolated people calling him names etc - they will just get thrown out and probably banned

[Rico]

Just wondering if the board do nothing and stick with Mcleish, what as fans could we do? I'm not sure protests actually achieve anything (especially when th.e owner is not here to see it). The only thing in my view that would get their attention would be a mass boycott of season tickets/match tickets and merchandise. But the problem then is it hurts the club. So it's a catch 22 situation. Guess it really depends on how much we want rid of Mcleish. Pass me the prozac!

[Concrete John]

Behind the dug out fans are shouting "Sit down you twat you hav'nt got a clue"

I was wondering whether he'd be getting stick like that from the fans behind him.

He now has his own sevurity person and stewards that sit between fans and the dug out - someone actually threw a season ticket on the pitch at the end of the game.
I actually dont like the personal abuse and swearing thrown his way - i think it should be whole sections of the crowd singing "Mc out etc"  if it is isolated people calling him names etc - they will just get thrown out and probably banned

So that's what really happened to Rip Van Bentfletch's ST!!

[preston28]

He'll be here as long as he wants to be. He is deluded enough to think that he has the skills and aptitude to be a good manager so he'll stay oblivious to the carnage that he is presiding over.  No way will RL sack him!

[Fergal]

If Randy doesn't fancy sacking him I know someone who will do it for him no problem...

[Fergal]

I just want rid of him.  If we changed managers now we might get a couple of 'new manager syndrome' moments that would be enough to keep us up.  It would have to be someone from within though because we don't have time for a new man to get to know the players.  Arise K Mac and Sid

[olaftab]

I can not see him  departing whatever happens. I am afraid we are stuck with him for at least another season.

[Dante Lavelli]

I think the lift KMac and Sid would give the place would be enough to get us home, however I doubt that they would want to be messed about again after the MON/Houllier debacle.

On that note, in the end did KMac actually want the job or did he see pound signs?
I just get the impression that he prefers his role slightly out of the limelight.  Anyone got any inside info on this?

[Risso]

I've lost my season ticket so I phoned about a replacement today

'That'll cost you £10'

'What? For the sake of 4 remaining matches'

'Well you'll need it for renewal next season'

'You're kidding, i'm not renewing.'

'Well that's your choice'

Top drawer stuff!

I bet Mrs F, sick of your moods after yet another loss, has flushed it down the bog.

[john e]

i cant believe over 77 % say he's as safe as houses, what are you guys watching and seeing, has Randy come out and backed him, no  as he given him the dreaded vote of convidence, no
he's done nothing

all the signs to me are not that he's getting instinting backing from the club, but they are just going through the motions, as though they know something we dont

he's either preparing to sell the club on, or he will do the right thing re AM and part ways before it gets any more serious.

some of us are reding the situation correctly, some of us will have egg on our face, i wonder which way it will all fall, its like a giant game of Cluedo.

[Monty]

i cant believe over 77 % say he's as safe as houses, what are you guys watching and seeing, has Randy come out and backed him, no  as he given him the dreaded vote of convidence, no
he's done nothing

all the signs to me are not that he's getting instinting backing from the club, but they are just going through the motions, as though they know something we dont

he's either preparing to sell the club on, or he will do the right thing re AM and part ways before it gets any more serious.

some of us are reding the situation correctly, some of us will have egg on our face, i wonder which way it will all fall, its like a giant game of Cluedo.

I sincerely hope I'm the one with omelette splattered all over my ugly mug come the summer. It's just not the way I'm reading the situation I'm afraid.

[RunRickyRun]

I've lost my season ticket so I phoned about a replacement today

'That'll cost you £10'

'What? For the sake of 4 remaining matches'

'Well you'll need it for renewal next season'

'You're kidding, i'm not renewing.'

'Well that's your choice'

Top drawer stuff!

Can't they just disable the ST and send you paper ones for the remaining games ?

Apparently not, you have to fill out a lost/stolen form AND cough up £10.

You'll need a lost property number from the police for that.  It happened to me a few years ago and they sent me paper tickets until I could get it sorted - maybe you could just blag it for a few weeks?

You're better off ringing up a week before each home game and say that you cant make it and could you have a paper ticket.  ITS FREE!  No point in forking out £10 for a new season ticket unless you are going to renew?

Was just about to post the same. You can request a paper ticket for each game.

[john e]

i cant believe over 77 % say he's as safe as houses, what are you guys watching and seeing, has Randy come out and backed him, no  as he given him the dreaded vote of convidence, no
he's done nothing

all the signs to me are not that he's getting instinting backing from the club, but they are just going through the motions, as though they know something we dont

he's either preparing to sell the club on, or he will do the right thing re AM and part ways before it gets any more serious.

some of us are reding the situation correctly, some of us will have egg on our face, i wonder which way it will all fall, its like a giant game of Cluedo.

I sincerely hope I'm the one with omelette splattered all over my ugly mug come the summer. It's just not the way I'm reading the situation I'm afraid.

well if he's still in charge next season feel free to shoot me down in flames, but if he's not i will be riding my high horse.

i just canot see how anyone in there right mind would put up with this shambles, and i even think its the best thing for Mcliesh to go for his own good.
pay him up and start again, thats the only way forward