Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Villanation]

We got out played by what has to be one of the worst sides in the Premiership in recent years, and consistently worse, had they had better finishers we would have surely lost that one.

7pts from the next worse team and 9 from the drop zone but for me we are already in there, the only way that we are not rooted in there is because it just so happens there are some pretty poor sides in the Premiership this season.

We have to take advantage of this break we have, McLiesh must now go, Faulkner must go with him and if Randy Lerner doesn't get that he is going to face an increasingly hostile fan base and a huge loss of gate money, he must act now and I think he will after that today, because that showed even with Bent even with Keane we are playing utter crap.

.........and I have to ask this, how do you release a press statement about a player saying you want more from him (N'Zogbia) on the eve of the match and then stick him on the bench, if ever you wanted to screw a player up, there it is in one easy lesson, you say that to rev the bloke up, get him in the starting blocks, and let the bloke lose on the enemy.

Change now has to happen or i really fear for Aston Villa.

 

[Moorski]

I doubt that Lerner will sack Mc Leish either now or in the summer, He will keep stum i'm afraid

[oldtimernow]

woke up at 4 am to watch it......now feeling as crap as the match was..why do we bother...then I remembered the chant I heard from the Villa fans....I am Villa till I die.

Well done to all who went shame about the match though

[UK Redsox]

M6 & M5 were pretty clear, so I made it back just before 8pm

One of the more puzzling afternoons that I've spent watching the Villla.

Maybe Herd wasn't fully fit, because the Baz & Gaz combination seemed a strange idea to start with. Gardner did OK for me but Bannan seems to have regressed. He seemed to run around a lot without actually doing anything.

I'm beginning to think that Eck is using Emile now out of spite. Ireland was given such a round of applause when he warmed up that Eck must have heard. Emile's shot was one of his classics.

Then to bring off Gardner instead of Bannan, when Ireland came on,  just made my confusion worse.

Hutton had a nightmare first half but seemed to settle down. However, he's still not adequate for this league.

Carlos was excellent again (apart from his weak header on goal in the second half).

[pauliewalnuts]

There's no excuse for that and deserves all the abuse he gets when he's ruining our club with horrible negative decisions.

No, he doesn't. He deserves criticism. He doesn't deserve abuse. You don't seem to understand the difference.

Fans are entitled to vent their anger. You don't seem to understand freedom of speech.

As far as I'm concerned you are perfectly entitled to abuse him. Call him a useless c***, a stupid prick or whatever you want. It's when you come out with comments likening him to someone who is mentally retarded or to a cancer at the club. It's not that it is offensive to him but rather the people who have suffered from things like that or their relatives. I lost my mother to cancer and I'm sure that I'm not the only person on this site who has lost a loved one to cancer. Indeed, there are probably people on here who have suffered cancer. To liken him to that kind of thing just makes you seem like an utter twat.

It does, and I think we've heard enough from Compass.

[Villanation]

I doubt that Lerner will sack Mc Leish either now or in the summer, He will keep stum i'm afraid

Thing is Moorski, I don't mind seeing Villa in the Championship if we have put up one hell of a fight and struggle but it just so happens there would be better sides than us. Outside of the top 5 maybe 6 the Premiership is pretty poor this season.

What I can't see is Villa going down at a whimper, down to ineptitude and sheer incompetence.

If Lerner don't get that he needs to sell the club because he don't get anything. 

[Witton Warrior]

I'm beginning to think that Eck is using Emile now out of spite. Ireland was given such a round of applause when he warmed up that Eck must have heard. Emile's shot was one of his classics.

I think it is fear from AM - "don't let yourselves get stretched" - bit of a turnaround for Ireland though isn't ti?

[Rip Van We Go Again]

McLeish and Lerner are incompetent, clueless fucks.
And at the risk of falling foul of this site, so is Faulkner.
We're deep in the shit and the depth is getting worse.

The only person happy with todays result will be McLeish.

[silhillvilla]

Having witnessed that, I can now see a loss next week and a draw at home to Fulham, leaving us in deep trouble
& no Keane and the injuries are mounting

[Witton Warrior]

Having witnessed that, I can now see a loss next week and a draw at home to Fulham, leaving us in deep trouble
& no Keane and the injuries are mounting

The reaction at the next two home matches will be interesting if we don't pick up the pace and at least play well/with spirit.
Haven't heard the Holte chanting against AM yet, will that change?

[Steve kirk]

Well I predicted a dire draw, predicting what Villa will do is getting very easy, with our 1 in 4 games win ratio we have 2 games left to keep that record, I cannot see us winning at Blackburn so the win will have to be at Home to Fulham but with our home record that will be very difficult, its so depressing and feels like a slow death, Randy will blindly stick with Alex all the way to the Championship which will definately happen come the end of next season.
As for the rest of the season with the exit of Keane its about to get even uglier but we will just survive, what is happening to our wonderful club.   

[silhillvilla]

The Bolton home game is moved back now as they are in FA CUp QF action

Lose at Blackburn and Fulham at home could be interesting

[Moorski]

A defeat against Blackburn would put the team under serious pressure at home to Fulham,should the game not be going too well then I reckon that the Holte End will vent their anger towards Mc Leish, I think he knows that already.

[UK Redsox]

Normally reproducing your home form for away matches is good. Not, however, for the Villa.

We used to do OK on the road, but now we're just as bad as at Villa Park.

The way things are going, Villa will be playing Wigan again next season.

[TheSandman]

A defeat against Blackburn would put the team under serious pressure at home to Fulham,should the game not be going too well then I reckon that the Holte End will vent their anger towards Mc Leish, I think he knows that already.

That fear of us turning on him will drive his fear of losing into overdrive. I expect we will put in an even cagier, more defensive performance than today against Blackburn.