Relegation Possibility

[SoccerHQ]

Folks if you're so sure on this, put money on Bolton and QPR winning all their remaining games this season. With QPR still to play Chelsea and Man. City away, you're certainly going to get some very long odds.

I've already backed QPR a little recently.....much easier to me than just putting a lump sum on us getting relegated anyway.

[LeeB]

Another thing: if QPR don't win against Spurs this weekend, we're more or less safe, regardless of how we do. In that scenario QPR would have to win two against Stoke, Chelsea and Man City, while we keep losing. I don't see it.

depends how spurs react after the defeat yesterday. looked pretty knackered and demoralised to me and have done so  for some time now. redknapp for england thing  seems to have hit them hard. Still we have to play them as well

Spurs look absoloutely knackered, i think they have won 1 in 8

Was thinking about this the other day. Spurs, Liverpool and us a couple of seasons back.

All good on paper, all with old-school managers, all with press boys on their side, all hitting a massive wall come March.

The games moved on.

[SoccerHQ]

Didn't stop them overtaking us in 09/10 with a ridiculous Bale inspired run of form from March though. I actually think that season was our best chance of making the top 4 as Man. City weren't quite ready that season.

Christ, two years ago but all that feels like 20 years ago.

[hawkeye]

he really does have to get the team right on Saturday, no Hutton at right back for a start

I guarantee Hutton will be in the team.
AM is stubborn enough to stick with a plan that is not working. We see it every week. He's not going to change now!

And our Captain starts.

Gabby said several weeks ago that he wished the season was over. The way he is playing, for him it already is. He contributed nothing on Sunday and I thought was a really bad example to the kids and a bit of a disgrace as captain of the club he says he loves. Hollow words!
I'd love him to have a few blinders in the games we have left but I don't think he will. Hope I'm wrong.

He looks a shadow of the player that used to terrorise defenders with his pace and running, making him captain when he was allready out of form just made the situation worse, another great decision, like you i just hope he does something to turn a game. his goal at West Ham last season started our revival.

[john e]

last time i looked we were 6 points clear, with as good a run in of fixtures as you could wish for, with difficult ties against Man Utd and liverpool out of the way,
its looking good

i'm so confident of staying up i will personaly donate £500 to this site if we go down, and no i have not had a drink.

our big problem is Alex Mcliesh not Relegation

You're a brave man John though I think you will just be safe on your bet. We could have some fun with 500 quid mind you. Perhaps we need to start a thread on suggestions as what to do with it?!

well i suppose its what you call a win win bet,
 we dont go down i dont lose any money, we do go down, i'm sure the money will be put to good use

[dave.woodhall]

last time i looked we were 6 points clear, with as good a run in of fixtures as you could wish for, with difficult ties against Man Utd and liverpool out of the way,
its looking good

i'm so confident of staying up i will personaly donate £500 to this site if we go down, and no i have not had a drink.

our big problem is Alex Mcliesh not Relegation

You're a brave man John though I think you will just be safe on your bet. We could have some fun with 500 quid mind you. Perhaps we need to start a thread on suggestions as what to do with it?!

well i suppose its what you call a win win bet,
 we dont go down i dont lose any money, we do go down, i'm sure the money will be put to good use

Oh yes.

[hawkeye]

last time i looked we were 6 points clear, with as good a run in of fixtures as you could wish for, with difficult ties against Man Utd and liverpool out of the way,
its looking good

i'm so confident of staying up i will personaly donate £500 to this site if we go down, and no i have not had a drink.

our big problem is Alex Mcliesh not Relegation

You're a brave man John though I think you will just be safe on your bet. We could have some fun with 500 quid mind you. Perhaps we need to start a thread on suggestions as what to do with it?!

well i suppose its what you call a win win bet,
 we dont go down i dont lose any money, we do go down, i'm sure the money will be put to good use

we could use the money to buy a banner to cover lots of empty seats

[Greg N'Ash]

Folks if you're so sure on this, put money on Bolton and QPR winning all their remaining games this season. With QPR still to play Chelsea and Man. City away, you're certainly going to get some very long odds.

I've already backed QPR a little recently.....much easier to me than just putting a lump sum on us getting relegated anyway.

We're not sure, just sure there's a chance. By next weekend it could be all over, probably with nothing to do with our result but until the likes of wigan stop fluking results then "the perfect storm" is still on. Anyway this is the only excitement we've had all season.

[pauliewalnuts]

If we stay up, the pressure on McLeish at the start of next season is going to be immense.  I wonder if he's past the point of no return regardless of what happens.

There were plenty of us willing to give the guy a go so long as he didn't repeat his mistakes with Blues, and largely he's done precisely that. Those people aren't going to be anything like as willing to give him time next season if he's still there.

Unfortunately, I think the whole disunity around the club is now going to linger for quite a long time. Lots of the fans have lost the love for the chairman, the chairman has lost interest in the club, the fans can't stand the manager, the manager has started talking the club down (albeit inadvertently sometimes), and the players look totally unbothered.

If SGT Mk 1 thought the club was a shambles when he arrived, what on earth would he make of this?

[hawkeye]

Folks if you're so sure on this, put money on Bolton and QPR winning all their remaining games this season. With QPR still to play Chelsea and Man. City away, you're certainly going to get some very long odds.

I've already backed QPR a little recently.....much easier to me than just putting a lump sum on us getting relegated anyway.

QPR need to win 2 out of 4, Bolton need to win 3 out of 6 including us to give themselves a decent chance

[LeeB]

If we stay up, the pressure on McLeish at the start of next season is going to be immense.  I wonder if he's past the point of no return regardless of what happens.

There were plenty of us willing to give the guy a go so long as he didn't repeat his mistakes with Blues, and largely he's done precisely that. Those people aren't going to be anything like as willing to give him time next season if he's still there.

Unfortunately, I think the whole disunity around the club is now going to linger for quite a long time. Lots of the fans have lost the love for the chairman, the chairman has lost interest in the club, the fans can't stand the manager, the manager has started talking the club down (albeit inadvertently sometimes), and the players look totally unbothered.

If SGT Mk 1 thought the club was a shambles when he arrived, what on earth would he make of this?

I don't know paulie, but I'd sooner let his missus sort it out than the current incumbant.

[itbrvilla]

Folks if you're so sure on this, put money on Bolton and QPR winning all their remaining games this season. With QPR still to play Chelsea and Man. City away, you're certainly going to get some very long odds.

I've already backed QPR a little recently.....much easier to me than just putting a lump sum on us getting relegated anyway.

We're not sure, just sure there's a chance. By next weekend it could be all over, probably with nothing to do with our result but until the likes of wigan stop fluking results then "the perfect storm" is still on. Anyway this is the only excitement we've had all season.

Unfair to Wigan. They battered united, and we're the better team against chelsea but robbed by poor decisions, and had more shots on and off target than Arsenal tonight. Certainly isn't any luck involved.

[JUAN PABLO]

Ive started to go grey this season . Thanks McFuck ....

[hawkeye]

If we stay up, the pressure on McLeish at the start of next season is going to be immense.  I wonder if he's past the point of no return regardless of what happens.

There were plenty of us willing to give the guy a go so long as he didn't repeat his mistakes with Blues, and largely he's done precisely that. Those people aren't going to be anything like as willing to give him time next season if he's still there.

Unfortunately, I think the whole disunity around the club is now going to linger for quite a long time. Lots of the fans have lost the love for the chairman, the chairman has lost interest in the club, the fans can't stand the manager, the manager has started talking the club down (albeit inadvertently sometimes), and the players look totally unbothered.

If SGT Mk 1 thought the club was a shambles when he arrived, what on earth would he make of this?

The problem is, we still think that we are a big club. Sadly it appears that no one at the Club has the same belief. I mentioned some time ago, Managers and players when they joined would allways refer to them joining a massive or big club. Even MON did that. Look at the statements coming from Mcliesh, look at our players reaction to Ashley Young. There is something very wrong SGT addressed that and provided leadership that is absent right now.

[Greg N'Ash]

Folks if you're so sure on this, put money on Bolton and QPR winning all their remaining games this season. With QPR still to play Chelsea and Man. City away, you're certainly going to get some very long odds.

I've already backed QPR a little recently.....much easier to me than just putting a lump sum on us getting relegated anyway.

We're not sure, just sure there's a chance. By next weekend it could be all over, probably with nothing to do with our result but until the likes of wigan stop fluking results then "the perfect storm" is still on. Anyway this is the only excitement we've had all season.

Unfair to Wigan. They battered united, and we're the better team against chelsea but robbed by poor decisions, and had more shots on and off target than Arsenal tonight. Certainly isn't any luck involved.

Yeah i didn't mean they fluked the performances, just what you'd wouldn't generally expect Wigan to get results wise