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Offline achilles

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1215 on: April 16, 2012, 01:49:59 PM »
From oddschecker's daily email:

Aston Villa gifted Man United three crucial title race points with an inept performance yesterday - even given Young's continuation of the Tom Daly impersonation show. The Villains have now won just one of their last twelve - Birmingham managed just two wins from their final thirteen last year. Sunderland, Spurs, WBA and Norwich all look good to beat the beleaguered side which leaves only Bolton to mop up next week at Villa Park where the hosts boast just one victory from the last ten. Given McLeish's relegation record it looks worth taking the 18/1 on offer now before a further plunge into obscurity.

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Don't know what to say to that!  :-\

Offline john e

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1216 on: April 16, 2012, 01:51:26 PM »

We are a joke- the owner,ceo and manager along with most of the playing staff are an embarrassment! For god sake randy please go and take your clowns with you!

Randy has been very good for this club so calling for his head after all the money he's put in is a shortsighted.

He's made an absolute howler in appointing McLeish and that's something he's going to have to rectify. He's not the first chairman to get a managerial appointment wrong. 

Short-sighted is thinking that blowing a load of money makes a good chairman.  That money has all been wasted and has set us back years.  Lerner has been a disaster.

Agreed risso, lerner had good intentions and made a promising start but his last 2 years at the helm have been shambolic in the extreme- he should be judged on the present not the past.


he made a mistake with AM, thats all,
 get someone better in who can make a decent fist of it and all will be well

Offline Risso

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1217 on: April 16, 2012, 01:55:52 PM »
I just hope that any potential buyers don’t come on here, because the impression they are going to get is that at the first sign of trouble they’ll be branded clueless wankers and told to sell up to the next lot.

Something has to change and Lerner has to get a grip on the situation, but calling for him to go given what he has tried to achieve here is just ungrateful sour grapes.

It's not ungrateful, we didn't ask for him to buy us, and didn't have any choice.  He's made a right mess of everything, and so we don't have to tug our forelocks in his direction. 


Most of us were like kids in a candy shop when he took over the reins from Doug (me included). In fact I don’t recall any voices of concern on here when Randy came into town. Hell the Holte End even chanted his name, like a hero.

He has royally f**ked up and he has to put it right. In fact I remember posting on here a couple of weeks ago that the venom directed at McLeish detracts from the mess Lerner has made of late. He has to put it right and we should enable him to do so.

Like most on here I agree that it starts by being a man and accepting that McLeish was a terrible decision. However, Lerner has invested heavily in the club and improved many things that were sorely lacking under Doug – Bodymoor and the treatment of the class of ’82 come to mind for one. Let him fix this, because if he decides to jack it in due our own stroppy and sometime personal reaction to an appalling season, we’ll be royally up shit creek without a paddle.


It isn't just one season though, the whole club has been in decline for two years now, and it's not just a blip, but an entirely predictable outcome after he basically abdicated responsibility for the finances to O'Neill, rather than having a proper working relationship with his manager.  We've since seen most of our decent players sold, including pretty well the entire current England midfield.  We haven't replaced them, and we're STILL making massive losses, and are of course saddled with the worst manager that many people can remember.  There's no sign of any improvement, and next year will in all probability be even worse.  He deserves all the personal criticism he gets and more, and he can't just "jack it in" as he'd have to find a buyer, which is going o prove difficult given the almighty bollocks he's made of the finances.

Seriously, Lerner is a complete mug, a rich kid lucky enough to have inherited a fortune, and unfortunately not content with making a mess of his hometown NFL team, he's exported his own brand of incometence over here as well.

Offline James

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1218 on: April 16, 2012, 06:44:04 PM »
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From oddschecker's daily email:

Aston Villa gifted Man United three crucial title race points with an inept performance yesterday - even given Young's continuation of the Tom Daly impersonation show. The Villains have now won just one of their last twelve - Birmingham managed just two wins from their final thirteen last year. Sunderland, Spurs, WBA and Norwich all look good to beat the beleaguered side which leaves only Bolton to mop up next week at Villa Park where the hosts boast just one victory from the last ten. Given McLeish's relegation record it looks worth taking the 18/1 on offer now before a further plunge into obscurity.

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Don't know what to say to that!  :-\

Pretty damning isn't it? The hardest thing is trying, objectively, to disagree with it!

Offline LamBeast

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1219 on: April 16, 2012, 06:46:46 PM »
We will not go down,McLeish has to go.

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1220 on: April 16, 2012, 06:59:20 PM »
I just hope that any potential buyers don’t come on here, because the impression they are going to get is that at the first sign of trouble they’ll be branded clueless wankers and told to sell up to the next lot.

Something has to change and Lerner has to get a grip on the situation, but calling for him to go given what he has tried to achieve here is just ungrateful sour grapes.

It's not ungrateful, we didn't ask for him to buy us, and didn't have any choice.  He's made a right mess of everything, and so we don't have to tug our forelocks in his direction. 




He has royally f**ked up and he has to put it right. He has to put it right and we should enable him to do so.


I agree entirely.

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1221 on: April 16, 2012, 06:59:40 PM »
I think its very easy to disagree with.

The Albion have shit home form and a massive inferiority complex when it comes to us. We could easily win that.

Sunderland are dour and predictable, with one eye already on the beach, we could easily beat them.

Norwich did well to only be smashed six. We could easily win that.

Tottenham have collapsed quicker than an English middle order and will have nothing to play for, so we could easily win that.

Bolton are shite and we can easily win that.


See. Its very easy and I'm not even trying to make a fool part from his money.

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1222 on: April 16, 2012, 07:01:13 PM »
Where is Lerner actually supposed to "go" though?

How is that supposed to work?

Offline Tom Sawyer

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1223 on: April 16, 2012, 09:31:09 PM »
Wigan winning at The Emirates. Of course it had to be.

Offline OzVilla

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1224 on: April 16, 2012, 09:47:30 PM »
You've got to forget the predictor thing at this time of year. As usual, the funny end of season results started a few weeks ago with teams at the bottom starting to pick up unlikely points - all apart from the predicatable surrender monkeys that are the Villa under AML that is.  Were we routinely surrender games without trying because they have some good players - what a mindset to instill in a young side!!!!

So Wigan winning at Arsenal (were we put up the white flag and couldn't compete), and now QPR will play a Spurzz team just off the back of poor form and a 5-1 Cup Semi hammering - lovely!

I can quite easily see plenty of ways that we could still get relegated.

Offline Summers

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1225 on: April 16, 2012, 09:59:22 PM »
We're sinking, lads.

Offline Chipsticks

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1226 on: April 16, 2012, 10:01:59 PM »
I think its very easy to disagree with.

The Albion have shit home form and a massive inferiority complex when it comes to us. We could easily win that.

Sunderland are dour and predictable, with one eye already on the beach, we could easily beat them.

Norwich did well to only be smashed six. We could easily win that.

Tottenham have collapsed quicker than an English middle order and will have nothing to play for, so we could easily win that.

Bolton are shite and we can easily win that.


See. Its very easy and I'm not even trying to make a fool part from his money.


I agree with all of this.


The thing people need to realise is that three teams need to pass us for us to go down, and I don't think there's three teams in that bottom three that can do it.

Offline Summers

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1227 on: April 16, 2012, 10:02:51 PM »
I think its very easy to disagree with.

The Albion have shit home form and a massive inferiority complex when it comes to us. We could easily win that.

Sunderland are dour and predictable, with one eye already on the beach, we could easily beat them.

Norwich did well to only be smashed six. We could easily win that.

Tottenham have collapsed quicker than an English middle order and will have nothing to play for, so we could easily win that.

Bolton are shite and we can easily win that.


See. Its very easy and I'm not even trying to make a fool part from his money.


I agree with all of this.


The thing people need to realise is that three teams need to pass us for us to go down, and I don't think there's three teams in that bottom three that can do it.

Wigan and QPR can. Bolton beat us and they will.

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1228 on: April 16, 2012, 10:03:35 PM »
Arsenal 1 Wigan 2.

Cut the odds on us going down.

Offline PaulWinch again

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1229 on: April 16, 2012, 10:04:21 PM »
The problem is for every argument of why we should beat the teams we're playing you need to remember that we are absolutely terrible. We have won 1 game in 12 and that was a last gasp winner. We could very easily lose our remaining games. The fact the manager hasn't been sacked for this performance is laughable.

 


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