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Offline eastie

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1170 on: April 16, 2012, 09:08:14 AM »

We are a joke- the owner,ceo and manager along with most of the playing staff are an embarrassment! For god sake randy please go and take your clowns with you!

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1171 on: April 16, 2012, 09:09:29 AM »
I can only echo Paulie's sentiments. I've seen a fair bit of disappointment as a Villa fan over the years, but this has got to be my lowest point yet. It's just so miserable, so devoid of optimism, it's appalling. I know the result and the performance before the game even starts. We offer nothing; there's no spark, no spirit, no confidence, seemingly no game plan. It's humiliating seeing us like this. I can't even get angry about it now, I've just about given up.

Mind you, I did enjoy McLeish's assessment of Paul Scholes' performance after the game yesterday. Great stuff.


Offline john e

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1172 on: April 16, 2012, 10:04:08 AM »

We are a joke- the owner,ceo and manager along with most of the playing staff are an embarrassment! For god sake randy please go and take your clowns with you!


how many times have people got to say this, he cant just go, he owns the club ffs

its not like MON who can just walk out or even Mcleish who can be sacked,
 he cant go anywhere untill he has a buyer and that is even if he wants to sell, he might be trying we dont know, but to just say 'Randy please go' is just a bit rediculous

as i have said before, a lot of this crap will be forgotten with the appointment of a decent manager one who takes us forward and more importantly gives us all something to believe in again

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1173 on: April 16, 2012, 10:06:59 AM »
The difference between this era and other low ebs in our recent past is there is a real lack of positives. Only the handful of potential young players coming through is anything ersembling a positive. And, let's face it, just because a young player has potential doesn't mean he will actually suceed in being a top class player.

Offline David_Nab

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1174 on: April 16, 2012, 10:17:26 AM »
If we stay up it will be in spite of him not because of him

Offline eastie

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1175 on: April 16, 2012, 11:06:44 AM »
Lerner can decide  to sell up if he so wishes and i hope he does , the longer he waits the less he will get for the club as he is running us into the ground- villa a year ago would have been a much more attractive proposition to a buyer than now.

I would see a statement from lerner that he looking to sell as a huge positive right now as the longer he remains the worse it will become.

He gave it his best shot and came close but if he no longer can afford to compete its time to hand over the reigns .
« Last Edit: April 16, 2012, 11:09:11 AM by eastie »

Offline Boz

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1176 on: April 16, 2012, 11:19:08 AM »
Lerner can decide  to sell up if he so wishes and i hope he does , the longer he waits the less he will get for the club as he is running us into the ground- villa a year ago would have been a much more attractive proposition to a buyer than now.

I would see a statement from lerner that he looking to sell as a huge positive right now as the longer he remains the worse it will become.

He gave it his best shot and came close but if he no longer can afford to compete its time to hand over the reigns .

Lerner has invested in the club both with players and infrastructure, and it's the latter that will interest potential buyers as much as the staff at the club, players can be bought and sold, but the real assets are the properties.

I agree we would have looked more attractive when finishing sixth three years running, but I don't think Randy would have wanted to sell then as we looked like we might make the top four. Unfortunately, the arabs joined the game and it all went tits up even for a lesser billionaire.

I think Randy has the club's interests at heart, but his personal circumstances probably haven't helped plus the economic situation. If he sells, we will probably not have an owner who will see VP as anything more than a business opportunity.

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1177 on: April 16, 2012, 11:21:55 AM »

Offline andyh

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1178 on: April 16, 2012, 11:25:31 AM »
Apologies if already posted....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/apr/16/five-things-football-this-weekend

Bloody hell, that is very damning, there is some real strong language in there.
 

Offline Risso

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1179 on: April 16, 2012, 11:25:37 AM »

Lerner has invested in the club both with players and infrastructure, and it's the latter that will interest potential buyers as much as the staff at the club, players can be bought and sold, but the real assets are the properties.

I think Randy has the club's interests at heart, but his personal circumstances probably haven't helped plus the economic situation. If he sells, we will probably not have an owner who will see VP as anything more than a business opportunity.

Most of the decent saleable players have now left the club, and we're still in an insolvent position.  The only chance we'd have of a sale now is if Lerner would take a big hit on the money his trust has lent the club.

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1180 on: April 16, 2012, 11:26:16 AM »
Apologies if already posted....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/apr/16/five-things-football-this-weekend


Crikey.

Although "another season of nothingness"? If our last 10 years or so have been nothingness, then god knows what that says about the rest of the league, given that we finished sixth in four of them.

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Aston Villa are a sad sight these days – tired, directionless, timid, miserably shambling through another season of nothingness. What enjoyment is to be had on the Villa Park terraces these days? They are a club that seem overworked, huffing and puffing just to tread water in the Premier League, running to stand still. They need to recharge their batteries, to find some momentum, to stop constantly fire-fighting and find a way to move forward as a club.

What better way to do that than with a year or two (or more) in the Championship? Plenty of clubs have found relegation to have a restorative effect. Norwich are probably the best example. Between 2005 and 2009 the Canaries were going nowhere fast, scratching around in the bottom half of the Championship, good enough to stay up but only just. It took relegation to League One in 2009 and the appointment of Paul Lambert after a disastrous start to that season in the third tier to turn the club around.

Instead of grubbing around for points – the club won only 56 league games in four seasons from 2004-05 – they were able to strip things down, start again and build momentum, momentum that stays with them today. If the Canaries had somehow cobbled together enough points to stay up over the final few weeks of the 2008-09 season they would not be in the position they are today. Newcastle are another who have bounced back from the drop in style.

Alex McLeish – who would almost certainly be replaced in the event of relegation, another bonus for Villa fans – has a very young squad at his disposal, a talented one that is not yet in full maturity. Ciaran Clark, Nathan Baker, Chris Herd, Gary Gardner, Samir Carruthers and even Andreas Weimann, Barry Bannan and Marc Albrighton could benefit from finding their feet in the professional game at the lower level, rather than learning the hard way in the top flight. Indeed the suspicion is that the only reason several of those players are not on loan outside the Premier League is the paucity of McLeish's squad.

One step back to take two steps forward? It can be painful but it might just be fun. And Villa fans have not had much of that this season

Offline Rick_avfc

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1181 on: April 16, 2012, 11:27:41 AM »
Apologies if already posted....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/apr/16/five-things-football-this-weekend

Not havin that at all! Going down will ruin us.  Staying in the Prem is key even if it means finishing mid table for the next few years

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1182 on: April 16, 2012, 11:30:46 AM »
Apologies if already posted....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/apr/16/five-things-football-this-weekend

Not havin that at all! Going down will ruin us.  Staying in the Prem is key even if it means finishing mid table for the next few years

Quite true.

Yes, we need a re-think and a bit of a clear out, but we can just as easily do that in the PL as the Championship.

Offline Boz

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1183 on: April 16, 2012, 11:37:00 AM »

Lerner has invested in the club both with players and infrastructure, and it's the latter that will interest potential buyers as much as the staff at the club, players can be bought and sold, but the real assets are the properties.

I think Randy has the club's interests at heart, but his personal circumstances probably haven't helped plus the economic situation. If he sells, we will probably not have an owner who will see VP as anything more than a business opportunity.

Most of the decent saleable players have now left the club, and we're still in an insolvent position.  The only chance we'd have of a sale now is if Lerner would take a big hit on the money his trust has lent the club.

I think a business investor rather than a football investor might take a different view.

I didn't suggest we'd make much income from selling our dead legs, but taking over Villa and a willingness to provide a player budget could make a difference and if Villa was bought at the right price could turn a future profit. I doubt we'll find any buyer who would buy as a football fan.


Offline levico

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Re: Relegation Possibility
« Reply #1184 on: April 16, 2012, 12:15:11 PM »
Been said before but the very worst scenario (and IMO the most likely) is that we are relegated and AM stays.

 


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