AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[garyshawsknee]

Ugo talking shite on TSport

That makes a change.

[TopDeck113]

Such a shame it's a school night and a Monday or i'd have been out getting bladdered to celebrate

I'm invigilating from 8am tomorrow...

...POP goes another bottle of Chardonnay

Another cider opened chez Legion.

I think I'll join my fellow H&V members of the teaching profession and enjoy a beer or two tonight.  Cheers...and here's to starting to feel optimistic again.

[Simba]

I even opened my precious bottle of Lagavoulin single malt  Islay. oooh worth it.

[Toronto Villa]

Such a shame it's a school night and a Monday or i'd have been out getting bladdered to celebrate

I'm invigilating from 8am tomorrow...

...POP goes another bottle of Chardonnay

Another cider opened chez Legion.

I think I'll join my fellow H&V members of the teaching profession and enjoy a beer or two tonight.  Cheers...and here's to starting to feel optimistic again.

It's only 1.30pm here, but I assure all and sundry that will nail a few pops when I go home tonight. Mrs TV will just have to get used to me being less than useful tonight.

[Jimbo]

Should I open my bottle of chateauxneuf du pape, I wonder?

[The Situation]

I think we should be looking to do better than Martinez to be honest.  He hasn't set the world alight at Wigan (granted he got some unexpected results at the end of the season) but if Villa are planning on a relegation fight each season then Ok. We should be aiming for higher though.

I heard this same nonsense last summer.

Can people stop this elitist mentality and being all like "he's not good enough" "we deserve better". It's embarrassing. We aren't Real Madrid. We need to think outside the box. It's not necessarily about who is/isn't good enough, its about who is the right man for the job.

If Martinez isn't good enough then what has Rodgers or Lambert done in their first premier league season to show they're better? Lots of new promoted teams will have a good first season and the manager of that promoted team will get hyped up and then the following season things don't go so well and people wonder if it was all a fluke.

I'm not saying Martinez should be our new manager all I'm saying is that he should be carefully considered just like all potential candidates. I'm just sick of all this moaning.

[James]

I don't see moaning, I see debate, but each to their own!

[garyshawsknee]

Just seen a funny thing on twitter. A girl called Alex McLeish has tweeted,'' i am Alex Mcleish the girl,not the football manger,RANDOM GUYS STOP TWEETING ME TELLING ME I JUST GOT FIRED''

 Poor girl,funny though.

[clogger]

There is no doubt in my mind that the numbers of season ticket holders saying they were very disappointed with this season and were not renewing/were seriously doubting it had an effect here

Money talks

Conjecture. The club were/are well on course for the same amount of season tickets sold as last year.

I suspect only the club know the actual figures, but if they'd have kept him I'm certain crowds would have fallen again.  30K average I'd have thought.

Oh, granted it's conjecture Stu - like most of the things discussed on here are - but regardless of how many had already renewed and would do so regardless there was a very strong sense that a lot of people were seriously considering not renewing -and more to the point, were telling the Marketing/Ticket office so.

It was also very clear from the sheer number of calls we were getting that there was much more concern from the Villa this year about getting existing ST holders to renew

Totally agree with Risso that the attendances would continue to drop if a change hadn't been made

[Stu]

I think we should be looking to do better than Martinez to be honest.  He hasn't set the world alight at Wigan (granted he got some unexpected results at the end of the season) but if Villa are planning on a relegation fight each season then Ok. We should be aiming for higher though.

I heard this same nonsense last summer.

Can people stop this elitist mentality and being all like "he's not good enough" "we deserve better". It's embarrassing. We aren't Real Madrid. We need to think outside the box. It's not necessarily about who is/isn't good enough, its about who is the right man for the job.

If Martinez isn't good enough than what have Rodgers or Lambert done in their first premier league season to show they're better? Lots of new promoted teams will have a good first season and the manager of that promoted team will get hyped up and then the following season things don't go so well and people wonder if it was all a fluke.

I'm not saying Martinez should be our new manager all I'm saying is that he should be carefully considered just like all potential candidates. I'm just sick of all this moaning.

When looking at Lambert, it's the fact that he's got Norwich back into the Prem from League 1 in 3 consecutive seasons.

Considering Martinez, his teams are shit, don't turn up until April, and turned us down last year.

[damon loves JT]

Gareth Barry and James Milner are on an open-topped bus right now. *They* have something to celebrate.

[TopDeck113]

Gareth Barry and James Milner are on an open-topped bus right now. *They* have something to celebrate.

Too right they have: once a Villa man, always a Villa man...

[JUAN PABLO]

Ugo talking shite on TSport

That makes a change.

He said

If he had not come from blose , he would have had an extra season .....FFS

[Simba]

On a more sober note: ain't it great that even the PR  from the Club was no nonesense. None of this bloody "mutual consent" crap.

The results, performance, entertainment and mostly expectations of a club like Aston Villa were not met: so f off. You are effin nicked mate. Fired.

I liked that.

[garyshawsknee]

Ugo talking shite on TSport

That makes a change.

He said

If he had not come from blose , he would have had an extra season .....FFS

I dont know why the media bother with certain ex players. Just because they played for us years ago,doesn't mean they have their fingers on the Villa pulse.