AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[lovejoy]

Stan james make martinez favourite for the villa job with lambert and neil lennon 2nd and 3rd in the betting at present.

Have I missed something? Why would a man who refused even an interview last season be favourite for the same job?

I'd keep your money in your pocket. In most events you have a certain number of possible outcomes. With new managers the possibilities are very high. Also the media, especially sky like to leak exclusives, quote the odds coming in, offer us a bet, then see the outcome dismissed just later. It's a scam.
Odds going out on Curbs..12-1 now.
Quique Flores into 14's from 16-1.
Roy Keane is suddenly down from 20-1 to 14-1
Jurgen Klinsmann gets honorary mention in from 25's to 20-1.
But with Mick McCarthy at a steady 12-1 who knows what?

[pauliewalnuts]

The reason the prices fluctuate so much with the bookies is that this is a tiny market - there won't be much money punted on it, and as such, it doesn't take much money to move a candidate up or down the list.

Oh and the thing about SSN floating bullshit stories in concert with Sky Bet to make a killing is incorrect. It isn't worth the hassle on things like next manager markets.

[Stu]

I agree, although I wonder whether the reasoned folk (ahem) of H&V are representative of all Villa fans?

When the Trinity joined in with the Holte in a thunderous rendition of "Fuck off McLeish, the Villa is ours" against Bolton, it removed any reserves I had about it just coming from us bunch of cranks on teh interwebs.

[Stu]

He's worse than O'Leary. Certainly as a manager, as his record proves. But I always got the sense with O'Leary that a lot of his comments were aimed at the chairman, he was just so utterly lacking in charm and charisma as to taint the whole club. McLeish is constantly trying to justify himself to the detriment of the players at his disposal. That he thinks his revisionist comments about where he expected the club to finish will go unnoticed smacks of arrogance.

Let's not revise anything about O'Leary. Remember the 'Sugarbags' comment? I still don't know where that expression came from, it was bizarre. Plus his constant downtalking of the club, possibly aimed at the chairman, did nothing to ingratiate himself to the fans. Then, worst of all, he labelled the entire fanbase as 'fickle', which has been used as a stick to beat us with ever since.

[Steve67]

Those of you who are making the trip to Carrow Road please do the rest of us a favour and scream your heads off for McLeish to be removed.  He is a cock and HAS to go.

[john e]

i couldnt care less what Mr Mcleish has or is saying,

 i'm not bothered what he says or how he says it, and havent been for about 3 months which is about the same time as i have thought that he has no chance of surviving as the Villa manager,

disecting every word of his is a waste of time , he will be on his way soon,
 he did his best but his best wasnt good enough and thats the end of it.........  next

[Brian Taylor]

Stan james make martinez favourite for the villa job with lambert and neil lennon 2nd and 3rd in the betting at present.

Have I missed something? Why would a man who refused even an interview last season be favourite for the same job?

I'd keep your money in your pocket. In most events you have a certain number of possible outcomes. With new managers the possibilities are very high. Also the media, especially sky like to leak exclusives, quote the odds coming in, offer us a bet, then see the outcome dismissed just later. It's a scam.
Odds going out on Curbs..12-1 now.
Quique Flores into 14's from 16-1.
Roy Keane is suddenly down from 20-1 to 14-1
Jurgen Klinsmann gets honorary mention in from 25's to 20-1.
But with Mick McCarthy at a steady 12-1 who knows what?

I agree with betting 'scams' as just a way of taking our money. I think Martinez is the man though!

[Phil from the upper holte]

I've heard Paul ince I am sure It's Bollocks, I hope so anyway

[James]

I've heard Paul ince I am sure It's Bollocks, I hope so anyway

Yes, let's hope so, we really don't want to be emulating Blackburn and we're close enough to that as it is!

[rob_bridge]

He's worse than O'Leary. Certainly as a manager, as his record proves. But I always got the sense with O'Leary that a lot of his comments were aimed at the chairman, he was just so utterly lacking in charm and charisma as to taint the whole club. McLeish is constantly trying to justify himself to the detriment of the players at his disposal. That he thinks his revisionist comments about where he expected the club to finish will go unnoticed smacks of arrogance.

Let's not revise anything about O'Leary. Remember the 'Sugarbags' comment? I still don't know where that expression came from, it was bizarre. Plus his constant downtalking of the club, possibly aimed at the chairman, did nothing to ingratiate himself to the fans. Then, worst of all, he labelled the entire fanbase as 'fickle', which has been used as a stick to beat us with ever since.

He hasn't been overwelmed with like offers since though which is a saving grace. Fantastic player but a complete egocentric tool and a poor manager

[not3bad]

Must admit through all of his gaffes and the bad football I had to endure in 2005/2006 I never particularly hated O'Leary.  Maybe it was because I blamed Ellis more for the situation Villa were in.  Or maybe because O'Leary, despite all of his many, many faults, did not set up Villa as negatively as Mcleish does.

[OzVilla]

Must admit through all of his gaffes and the bad football I had to endure in 2005/2006 I never particularly hated O'Leary.  Maybe it was because I blamed Ellis more for the situation Villa were in.  Or maybe because O'Leary, despite all of his many, many faults, did not set up Villa as negatively as Mcleish does.

That's right he didn't but DOL was a far, far bigger C*** than AML or anybody else we've had down the years.

[ozzjim]

He certainly bought some decent players, I will give him that, but he was a horrid man.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Just a thought.

You know the countdown to kick off clock on the OS ? Now reading 0 days 16 hours 32 minutes 30 seconds ?
What happens to it once the game starts tomorrow ? Just stays at zero for a month or two ?

Be nice if someone at the club who is maybe in the know could set it for a countdown to kick out for one of the clubs employees?

[Moorski]

DOL & McLeish both bad experiences so lets hope that Randy sorts it out this summer.